Faction skins/taunts drop rates differ

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#1

I’ve bought more than 100 faction packs during the event. Most of them were Eldrid and Jennerit. I tracked what I got from them and surprisingly drop rates were different. At first I thought it’s just an impression, but no, it wasn’t: Eldrid packs had about 50% chance to drop skin or taunt (including duplicates). Jennerit, though, were only giving them at about 25% chance.

When I opened lots of UPR packs on Ernest release, there wasn’t 50% chance of drop, can’t say for sure but closer to 25% too.

What’s the cause?

P.S. I know it’s not accurate to count skins and taunts drops together (they should be counted separately), but at first it wasn’t my intention to measure the drop rate, just a quick view of what it might be.

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#2

Sampling bias. 100 faction packs sounds like a lot but, for the purpose of making statistical inferences, it’s way too small (especially since there are five factions, so you’ve only sampled 20 of each if you did it evenly.)

I don’t see that you have much choice: unless I missed something, the “Credit” item you get for a duplicate doesn’t indicate whether it was for a skin or a taunt? If you can’t tell which type it was a duplicate of, you pretty much have to lump them together.

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#3

The drop rate goes as follows;
Yellow/purple drops the most, because it’s the ugliest. Also always for characters you don’t play!

The skins and taunts you do want never drop. They have a 0.000001% drop rate. Maybe even less. Actually, the game might just remove them from the loot pool entirely.

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#4

I’ve tracked 52 Jennerit packs, got 11 drops. 55 Eldrid packs, got 29 drops. Doesn’t look like a bias, the difference is too high.

I also had a batch of 60 packs of Rogue, Eldrid and Jennerit together (20 of each), got 19 drops from them (haven’t tracked where they were from). Not much we can get from that, but it looks more like Rogue packs have low drop rate too, not 50%.

It does. Skin duplicate rewards you with 500 credits, taunt duplicate is 1000. 1000 is not substitute to 500 + 500 because I got 500 and 1000 at the same time a couple of times and never got 500 and 500.

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#5

i spent 58k on Saturday on jeneret packs. Didn’t get a thing. it was amazing.

Considering this game seems to be bugged in what it “calls” from it’s servers I’m not surprised. I’m still waiting on my Coopetition tag even having gotten the 60 kills on a group a number of times in a row on the same day…

That’s not including anything else it isn’t registering. I just happened to notice that one.

#6

Statistically, that’s not really a significant difference, even with ~50 trials. One possibility that should be easy to check though: are there the same total number of skins (and taunts) for each faction? I know when going through the Appearance tab for each character that the lists are different length (not counting premium skins/taunts requiring platinum for purchase), but I’ve never added up the total. Depending on how the RNG rolls are performed when you open a loot pack, it’s conceivable that a faction with more skins/taunts has a higher drop rate. (Plus, we have the original Eldrid plus Alani, but the extra Jennerit won’t be out for a while.)

OK, hadn’t noticed the specifics on that. Makes sense though. I rarely get two of any combination of skins and taunts in the same pack (usually just one of either), but then I haven’t burned through a ton of packs. (So far, the only character I really wanted a different taunt for was Melka, because her default one is just plain weird. It looks ok-ish in the appearance tab, but when you see it in the “line-up” at the start of a mission it looks more like she’s just suffering the after-effects of too much Eldrid booze…)

#7

Can confirm. Eldrid packs were far more generous than Jennerit for me. Jennerit actually were very lackluster, Bought the most packs, but got the least skins/taunts.

#8

Yes.

#9

Agreed. I buy them all in an order. I think the Jennerit packs have given me 5 taunts since I started.

#10

Actually, I don’t think that is true.

#11

Are there more taunts for some characters?

I’ve understood that everyone has two taunts and three skins that can drop from loot-packs.

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#12

Each hero has 2 lootable taunts and 3 skins. Eldrid, Rogue and UPR have 6 heroes, Jennerit and LLC have 5.

So, there might be difference in drop rate, but I don’t think it would be that much. Anyway, UPR and Rogue drop rates seem to be as low as Jennerit (or close to it) despite having more heroes.

#13

Oh yeah, we’re still missing the LLC and Jennerit characters…

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#14

I came to the same conclusion quite a while ago. For whatever reasons, Eldrid packs are far more generous in skins than any other pack.

#15

Yet I Still Do Not Have A White Skin For Miko or Mellka.

Why does RNG hate me.

#16

Ninjad by both of you :smile: This was my theory from begin with.

Eldrid: 6 heroes with 3 skins/2 taunts each = 18 skins + 12 taunts

Jennerit: 5 heroes = 15 skins + 10 taunts.

So Jennerit and LLC have less customisations that can drop. This would explain the difference in droprates as described.

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#17

YEt Rogue and UPR packs aren’t as generous as Eldrid, even thought they have the same amount :).
and actually it’s 11 taunts and 9 taunts , as there’s a taunt per faction (orendi, miko, phoebe, OM, and caldarius) that can only be obtained with the digital deluxe edition.

#18

It actually doesn’t matter, drop rates should be the same even if there are like gazillion of those things… It’s just that there is a bit bigger chance you will get 500/1k coins instead of a new taunt/skin if you already have some of the taunts/skins.

But the problem this topic is talking about is that Jennerit packs drops less taunts/skins, than the other faction ones. It’s like Eldrid ~20% chance, Jennerit ~5% chance to get a drop. At least it felt for me this way.

#19

We’re talking about Loot Pack taunts and skins here, though? Digital Deluxe and premium taunts and skins don’t really matter here.

#20

they do , since for those characters there’s only one taunt available in the loot packs. There is 6 taunts per character. The initial, the unlocked after a specific lore chalenge, the unlocked at rank 15, the two taunts that are in loot packs OR were unlocked with digital deluxe, and the premium taunt.
Skins don’t have any change, yes.