take your time. when I did my nisha vs eclipse kill with only white weapons, it was a struggle to deal damage and stay alive. so prioritize health over DPS potential and abuse the sh!t out of overcharge! lol.
if you allow yourself to use purples, a bandit launcher is awesome!
also, gwens other head is a cool pistol. does some good damage and with targeting scope, should be good for driving crits into his tiny face.
meat grinder could be good for big phase, its a little more DPS than the fast talker, but way less ammo efficient.
All of these test are done without skills or bar. I had a Shield of the Ages to survive and an Acrobat Oz kit during the large phase to get near his face. All in TVHM to better survive with similar parted lvl 50 Shooterang’s.
Small Sentinel
Non-elemental
Card damage 3734 Shown damage 3734
Cryo
Card damage 3112 Shown damage 3112
Shock
Card damage 3112 Shown damage 3112
Corrosive
Card damage 3112 Shown damage 1867
Fire
Card damage 3112 Shown damage 8169
Large Sentinel
Non-elemental
Card damage 3734 Shown damage 9335
Cryo
Card damage 3112 Shown Damage 7780
Fire
Card damage 3112 Shown damage 13614
Corrosive
Card damage 3112 Shown damage 4668
Shock
Card damage 3112 Shown damage 7780
I have no clue what these multipliers are doing but fire is definitely the best on the red health bar portions of the fight.
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Having used both, my impression is that the hard reboot is better. If you saved the mission (or reset UVHM), Zarpedon’s shock pistol from the chest in her secret room would also be worth trying.
Also, agreed that Gwen’s Other Head is a good choice for the large form, largely because of the critical hit bonus for face shots. (I believe the actual critical spot is the eyes?)
Great analysis.
(scratches his head)
I’m just seemingly not experiencing the good results with fire.
I need to give it another go.
Best high damage Fire GUN that is UNIQUE??? No lasers please…
Fire Bullpup??
Fire Hail (if you can Crit)??
Fire Gwen’s Other Head (if you can Crit)?? I’m thinking Big Sentinel only for this one.
Fire CM bullpup or Octo…your pick
What mission gives the Octo??
Its one of the R&D missions, maybe the one with the destroyer lemme google
Lab 19, so yea the one with the destroyer
Thanks…Lab 19…
Another run of alt farming…oh joy LOL
TPS Octo behaves the same as BL2 Octo??
And you feel damage is very good from it??
Are chucks from it worth a hoot?..or pretty minimalistic?
I would think the two octos are the same, and from my usage of them, they are. damage is ok, but I think you are better off with the bullpup, easier to use and better DPS. the chucks probably aren’t great because I feel like shotguns don’t chuck well in any BL game.
Well you pick the octo because you want a mid-long range shotgun with decent DPS but High DMG per shot, not the throw.
It’s more or less the same as bl2.
Embrace the Octo 
This. It’s basically a BL “hunter” shotgun, which makes sense since in BL2 you get if from Sir Hammerlock. Personally, I really like shotguns with a scope!
I just had a thought…what about the Party Line…especially for the small Sentinel??
should work, its a good gun. Gentle or bust btw
party lines pretty good, I never really liked it but It should serve you well.
Refresh me…
You employ the Party Line just like the Flakker…correct??
But you are still aiming for hits…you just want to be at the sweet spot for the party bursts.
Similar to Torguemada.
Or do I have this wrong…
I think the party line is more straightforward @Chuck80 could give you more info on how to shoot it.
The party line should be aimed slightly lower if you’re far enough away to aim center of mass on another gun (like, maybe knee high or even lower) The ground will catch the stray pellets and the fireworks move up anyway, so you want them to explode near your target, not above it.
If you’re close enough that you would aim for the head, keep on doing that.
Favor targets that have their backs to a wall first since it will catch stray pellets and produce the fireworks
The guns it works the most similar to are the Pimpernel and Torguemada
Thanks…last question and different weapon…
Wombat on the big Sentinals face??? Especially 2nd Phase
Reasonable??