For those of us who left solus, a serious question

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#26

Well I stick around the forums because I need something to scroll through while I work. I have been less frequent with my posts but am on basically everyday. It’s quite possible it’s easier to get ahold of me through pms here then on ps (and I will explain momentarily)

So I have been playing a lot less. I have ops skins to get(which I have almost acquired them all. 2 phoebe ops and most of the attackers for OM left) then I will have roughly 400 or so pieces of gear to delete. Which is tedious but mentally necessary for me to do. I occasionally pop in to pvp for the daily challenges. Then I will slowly work on diamond ranks for the main story on normal normal hardcore and advanced hardcore for the Lego packs. Then I will be commander pack grinding at an equal leisure to get the skins and truants from there.

The other things keeping me out of pvp are that me and my girlfriend have been dumping tons of time into Diablo. She is a very picky gamer and we have been devoting most of our free time in the game min maxing builds and gears together which she usually doesn’t like doing(couldn’t get her to do a second playthrough of bl2 after doing everything and all the dlcs) playing d3 means I need to turn off notifications or I get bombarded with the forum chat. Additionally my man pvp buddy @SomuddaGuy has been caught up with tons of other games being released so I haven’t had much opportunity to play with him.

I will be back. I just got tons on my plate atm

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#27

I’m not playing nearly as much as I used to lately. It’s not accurate to say I’ve left the game but I might as well have considering how much I used to play. I can’t just straight up quit this game, it’s like a drug and if I do just quit I’ll probably start having withdrawals.

The main reason for me cutting back is that it’s nearly impossible for me to find matches that I enjoy. If I play with friends, we just end up mindlessly stomping everyone we go against and it’s boring as ■■■■ for me to do that. I’ve tried solo queuing but this game is meant to be played with friends and it’s boring if you’re all alone.

I’ve tried remedying this by just queuing up with one or two other people but even that doesn’t work. @Nemosis327 and I can carry most teams against anything short of a five man. Most of the time when we play together the enemy team surrenders by the time we get to level 5. When we do go against 5 mans, they usually recognize us immediately and go full-blown meta tryhard. As a result we have to fight a team of skilled players exploiting the meta and hope that our randoms can keep up (they can’t, they never can).

I’ve tried remedying this by doing 10 mans and even this is starting to get boring. We have a group of some of the more competitive players on PS4 in a chat that does a lot of scrims but the CC meta in this game is very strong and very boring. Every game seems to have the same characters with some slight tweeks. It also doesn’t help that we only play incursion because there’s 3 or 4 people that don’t play Meltdown and have no desire to learn it. We tried Meltdown once and someone didn’t even know where the Elite bots were on Coldsnap. After that, never again. I might enjoy the 10 mans more if we played Meltdown as well as Incursion since the meta is a little less strict and there’s more room for variety.

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#28

Thanks for all the gifts btw :stuck_out_tongue:

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#29

Same to you and ginger(I think…) you 2 are the only 2 people I think I recognize giving gifts to. Actually what’s kinda comical/sad is that my gf only has me on her friends list so every gift drop she has goes to me. But since starting our char from scratch and getting 700 paragon levels I have given her maybe about half a dozen…

She does not like that lol

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#30

I stopped playing it as religiously as when it first came out around November because I had pokemon, Dishonored 2 and FFXV all come out within a few weeks of each other but I still played it to burn boredom with all three. Aside from that though, my friends all stopped for similar reasons and so I had to invest much more heavily into playing by myself in PvE and PvP, which I think we all can agree is not nearly as fun thanks to not being able to coordinate with players that you know to do better.

Recently while I’ve been playing PvP I’m getting a pretty even split of teams that are either pretty new to the game and so they aren’t as well familiar with the mechanics of how to win specific matches like moving mobs forward or prioritizing killing enemy healers, or teams that are premade and just stomp on the other team because even having two people coordinating with each other is better than everyone doing theit own thing.

Tldr: Other good games have come out since then and poor team balancing have driven me to play less than I used to.

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#31

This. Been playing since the beta.

Preach…I always hated their balance choices and lack of communication for those decisions.

Day one was great, but after that I just felt like everything began going downhill. The cons just weigh out the pros. I hope they do something major, in terms of changes to bring me back before May, because after Injustice 2 and Tekken 7 come out I will probably put this game to rest for good. Despite all of this, this game has a special place in my heart just like my precious Evolve (RIP).

Note: I haven’t left completely left, but I am very close to.

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#32

I’m simply taking a break because I felt that I was getting too competitive for my own and others good. My attitude swaying is a fault of my own, and I wanted to pull the breaks before I was about to go down the slippery slope.

I’ve certainly not left Battleborn in any sense of the word, and I’ve tried to emphasise that. Battleborn is still my favourite game at the moment, despite me not playing it. After all, since I’ve taken my break now, I’ve ended up becoming more active here on the forums instead because I still want to discuss and talk about Battleborn.

I still miss the game and the people I’ve played with even though my break hasn’t been long by any means so far. And there are still things I’d like to try and things to finish.

  • I want to get my last two diamond ranks.
  • I want to get all the Ops skins, only got all for Toby’s Friendship Raid and Montana and the Demon Bear at the moment.
  • I want to get 100 matches played with each character, only three characters of which are further than 10 matches away.
  • I want to try and master spin-cancelling which @blainebrossart1 taught me, despite Rath being one of my least enjoyable characters to play. Then also try to master the combo of Catalytic Smash - Spin-cancel - Crossblade.
  • I want to try to master an alternative melee combo with Phoebe which @Slif_One taught me which would certainly be a challenge on its own to be able to maintain the combo as it requires constant timing.
  • I want to see how hard Toby hits with 4 damage amp. drones from Kid Ultra.
  • I want to try a mobility Whiskey Foxtrot build.

There are certainly things left to do for me in Battleborn, and I want to do those things :thumbsup:

This has always been obnoxious to deal with. What’s most aggravating to me when this happens is that those who repeatedly farms and taunts beginners tend to be on my team. While I’m not a person who otherwise wants to kill someone just because they are who they are, because they haven’t died or something else of such nature, I still really enjoy headhunting those who taunts beginners. Because after all, most of the players who do so are not great players which typically makes it relatively easy to kill them.

If it’s the chat I think it is, then I can certainly understand. Based on the few scrims I had with them, it was all about winning. Despite the cost of diverse, interesting matches and mixing up the teams.

This is arguably why I’ve never been a huge fan of Incursion. It emphasies the meta and rewards exploiting it. While the meta is certainly noticeable in other game modes as well, it’s not nearly as bad as in Incursion and it allows, as you say, for more variety between matches.

Though personally I’m not a fan of playing Meltdown with them lot as they always got one or two players running shard gen. + wrench to spam elite bots. It’s certainly the way to go for winning, but to it’s not fun playing with or against.

We ought to go in as a five-man though at some point with a team comp such as Orendi, El Dragón, Mellka, Pendles and Alani, only to have everyone use gear to drag down their health by 630 :stuck_out_tongue:

It’d actually be fun if they reverted all character balance changes (so not overall game changes such as attack speed reduction when slowed for instance) to day one for a week or two as an event. To see the contrast and also see how players would play those characters now.

Regardless what happens with Battleborn or the community though, I’m happy with the game all in all despite its shortcomings and the people I’ve met playing it. Have talked Horizon Zero Dawn with @FlamesForAll, played Rocket League with @Ashbweh and Paladins with @EdenSophia and I hope to continue to play other games with the people I’ve met through Battleborn. Just kinda wished Evolve wasn’t dead so I could play that with Blaine as well :sweat_smile:

10/10 cheesy ending!

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#33

i quit because it took 30 minutes to an hour to find a match, and it was only 1 or 2 other poeple in the story missions who were also afk.

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#34

A post was merged into an existing topic: Bad Post from “Fo thoe who left…”

#35

No! NO!! This knowledge must NEVER be learned, or at least never posted publicly, or it will be the death of Toby! I don’t want him to get a damage nerf or, God forbid, the “Mellka treatment”, based on what he CAN do, however difficult it may be to set up realistically! FOR GOD’S SAKE, MAN; TOBY IS BATTLEBORN TO ME, AND I DON’T WANT HIM NEUTERED BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE WANT TO TOY WITH POWER BEYOND YOUR ABILITY TO COMPREHEND!! BEWARE!!

#BEWAAAAARE!!!

Pants harshly

Seriously… Don’t do it… It’ll destroy you…

Those unequipped to handle power will, before long, be RULED by it…

And junk… :smirk:

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#36

To be perfectly honest, I’m surprised Toby hasn’t gotten any significant nerfs given his ability to deal dish out the DPS he’s capable of as well as the relatively hard CC.

Can just imagine what this would look like with damage amp. :sweat_smile:

#37

I was a damn beast with the trappers. We could have had a great time.

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#38

Can only imagine! Now Evolve was a frsutrating game when you had new players on your team, or at least as your Trapper! Will say though that using the 100% increased weapon swap speed on Abe never got old :heart:

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#39

That’s actually how I met @Xelaris96 and @lolattheseforums! I was playing solo and ran into them as Abe. Eventually we all stopped playing that as well though and moved to Battleborn. I’m wondering what game will be next when we eventually leave Battleborn.

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#40

Ah, right! We ought to see if we can form an Evolve team of 4 and see if we can just find one monster to see how it’d go now, got in the mood tonplay Evolve :sweat_smile:

Will be interesting indeed to see what the next game will be. Don’t know any interesting titles in the making myself beyond Borderlands 3 and the rumors of TES VI which will arguably be a solo game still.

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#41

I don’t know if I’m really allowed to post here, since I didn’t stop playing completely but only cut down on PvP and only play it even more rarely than before (I’m mostly PvEer but played PvP on one or two days a week and now only maybe once in two to three months).

The game became too much SRS BSNS.

When I started playing (open beta and preordered the DDE without a second thought after playing for an hour), there was the occasional salty player on the team, but it was easy to ignore them. People had a positive attitude, you could sometimes make a mistake and the worst reaction was “Don’t do that again, please!”, you won some matches, you lost some. It was fun and even as a solo queuer it felt like a game for me where ten people just come together to have some fun.

After a while the mood changed. I ran into more and more complainers, whiners and ragequitters. Worst experience for me was when I picked Attikus on Echelon (I needed a win there for the lore) and three others quit at character select after calling me “another stupid feeder”. Every match I played as a solo queuer ended in a surrender (sometimes even when we were in the lead) and I felt not welcome anymore (I can’t carry a whole team, I love to play the game, but having a job and a family to take care of means I can’t play that often to be amongst the top players). On the other hand just playing with some friends led to us winning matches without too much trouble most of the time (and when I played PvP again last week, this still is the case). I had fun in those matches, but seeing surrender attempts and disconnects from the enemy team made me feel like I’m chasing away players and I’ve become one who ruins the fun for other people.

I don’t want to be that person.

I’ve been through some stuff in life I don’t wish any other person to go through. I’ve lost almost everything that was dear to me to something I couldn’t do anything against and one of the things that kept me going was to learn to enjoy life again (and video games was one of the things to do that). I don’t want to have fun by ruining another persons day, they also should at least have a good time then. Seeing all the hate, frustration and hopelessness in PvP started to make me feel depressed. For my own and other peoples’ sake I had to do something. I’ve got a really concerened message from a friend if everything is alright with me, because I really was out of character on reddit for a while. I went from being the lighthearted joker to a raging maniac within seconds sometimes. That’s me IRL sadly and I can’t change that anymore even with professional help. But that’s a part of me I really want to keep away from the general public. I want to treat others with the respect they deserve, but I’d also like to be one of the few who try to lighten up the mood when everything gets too angry to help others not falling in the same hole of depression, frustration and helplessness like I’m in.

The final straw was when someone I’d thought of as one of the good guys was bragging with a scoreboard showing a face off match with “premade of the well known personalities from reddit/the forum” against a team of players who didn’t even have a loadout yet for the most part. Zero masks deposited, one player on the premades farmed for a pentakill and had something like 60 kills and then the ultimate taunt to give the enemy a pity win as the cherry on top. I felt sick just looking at that and I honestly didn’t want to play with and against people like that anymore. I don’t mind bragging, but calling yourself a top tier player and doing stunts like that and feeling proud of it is just disgusting.

Bots Battle came and I could enjoy the game again for a while (people played meme compositions, much small talk during the match, no raging), but lately this also turned into a mode where people are more concerned about faming bots than anything (I got hatemail for killing minions and ending the match too fast last week …).

I don’t know what to do again. I started a group to gather some people to play with (anything from PvE to PvP public and private) and I’m almost concerned again that “the Botstompers” end up as “the Pubstompers” in the eyes of the general public, but at least I hope that I could bring some people (new and experienced) together who never heard of each other before that way. Don’t know yet how it will turn out, but at least I tried to do something.

Tl;dr, I guess: PvP confronted me with people that made me turn into a person I don’t want to be in public. I had to stop PvP, when I couldn’t enjoy the game anymore because of feeling guilty for either causing a loss and ruining the match of my team or winning and ruining that of the enemy team. I want to play a game where everyone can have a good time, but PvP seems to be no such place anymore.

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#42

I may not be gone, but this is a good time as ever to address concerns on why I bought Overwatch Wednesday night. Since then, I have played overwatch for the few hours of the night I am not busy, and have been having a lot more fun.

Reasons on Battleborns Side

• Firstly, the lack of great balance changes.
I know, people have said it, but I firmly believe that every week should have hotfixes till all characters are equally powerfull, and the ONLY SCENARIO where they ARE NOT MENTIONED is REWORK. Characters getting reworks do not need weekly changes.
Also, for the past few weeks, no balence has happened. This has made the game become stale, where matches have all the same characters, and no real large differences.
Finally, how GBX Balences. This has annoyed me since day one, but I do not like the lack of a Developers Comments for changes. It has no benefit to the community, and really feels like if crap happens, its too late, no reverts on changes, and you gotta live with them. We also know it can take monthes to get reworks, which can place characters in tough situations, and with no hope as the devs don’t let us know.
Ohh, and they do not take our feedback into account.

Secondly, Matchmaking.
This game has the worst matchmaking. I can litterally play any other game and get matches faster. Nevermind the difficulty to get those sweet, close, tough and intense matches. It has been stated that the playerbase is too low for this, but it has hurt the game. A lot. And with Meltdown Finale, we need close teams. But whatever, its why I was happy to get solo/duo Queue. As a Solo Queuer, the oppurtunity to Not get destroyed by a pre-made is awesome. And many people saw this as a positive. But the wait times are freaking forever. And this has pushed me away from a lot of the queues.

Thridly, The queue/Mode changes.
The changes to queues is more recent, so I will speak on that first. The ideas of multiple rumbles are awesome, as it allows some crazy things, but they often just add to the Modes I want to play, but don’t want to wait for list. These Rumbles/Modes are a pain to get into, and often use up 50 minutes a game. Its brutal.
Secondly, the mode changes have sucked. Some of the minor details have been fine, like sniping sentries, or adding/losing sheperds (more on this later), but Meltdown Finale sucked. It was, for me, the oppurtunity to do something awesome, but matchmaking couldn’t keep up, and with no changes to either of these problems, it creates an anti-fun mode best played in bots battle. Nevermind the changes we want are, suprise! Once again unheard. I have wanted the Snowball effect of Incursion removed via adding to Ultra bot systems on all maps, and removing the destroy all buildables when the sentry goes down. Both features often give the attacking team such an advantage its a hassle to comeback, and it often creates lots of Surrenders.
I also feel that Capture and Face-off need to be addressed, as they have the spawn camping issue.

Finally, Character Changes
These are the in depth changes, such as the decision to remove ALL AoE from the game (mostly) in one patch, and that patch being the one which added Sheperds to incursion. Yup, terrible timing, and a whole lot of weaker characters. Although I agree, all characters are bloated with CC and Other skills, this change didn’t unBloat the pile, but instead set one rin… Orendi to rule them all. The other mass changes often effect very few characters, but each charcter should not be able to have high single target AND Waveclear dps, and Orendi got both. Anyway, a lot of quality of life changes have happened since october, and recently, when going back to S&A, I was dissapointed. My first love, the Assassin S&A, was incredisouly weak, and replaced by Tank S&A. I hate changes that effect playstyles, as all characters should be able to have the ability to be played almost anyway you want, since helix’s exist. (Another complaint, The Helix’s are excessivly unbalenced, and hurt the game too. Like Ghalt, the decent midrange (across Echelon Bridge) being able to have life sucking hook and Super sheilds. Why? He can shred most characters with one ability, and it hurts this game due to its higher TTK.) And when a playstyle changes, it makes certain characters not fun. I stopped playing S&A due to OP sheilds, and when I get back, they are the most pathetic Assassin. But Character changes can be positive, like Pendals Ninja Buffs in the winter update, like easier to activate (like how the helix descirbes it) helix options, and a better slow. This allowed pendals to be usefull, and they decided he was op and reverted the changes. The one revert we got, it was to something most people where fine with. I mean, sure, he only needs 3 seconds of slow, but 4 is fine.

Final thoughts:
I love Battleborn, but due to bad timing and a low, steady dropping, albeit friendly playerbase (Met one dude across all my hours who I felt was rude), And a stale meta, I am happy to not play till the next patch. Some issues I didn’t go over are: Surrender shortens games, really annoying, some characters don’t feel usefull, and the abundance of sadness with the Mellka Rework.
Still, I will play till the end, and heavily enjoy this game, though I could really use ofline story missions/Command.
Anyway, lets look at overwatch.

Reasons to play Overwatch

I get to enjoy the very short (and reasonably balenced) Matchmaking!

This is a big deal, as it means the 2-3 hours a night I can play are used effectivly, and even if MM is taking a while, I can Skirmish! Woo-Hoo!
As well, being a player which watched how too play the game means I can enjoy doing well, and learning new characters.

Misc. Reasons
I get to feel helpfull playing everyone, and can learn tips.
I don’t worry about surrender
I know what the devs are thinking, and get great, 2 sentence in detail reasons for changes.
Really, a better use of time and a way to feel appreciated.
TTK feels great across the board, and I understand Why I die.
Servers are great, never red bar (ok, once, for four seconds.)
Oh, and it was on Sale! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Thanks for reading.
Sorry that this is long, but felt this was the best time to get this off my chest.

Edit 1: Reason Why I don’t enjoy BB as much. Mellka. Proceeds to drop Mic, when realises may not have been clear Sorry, BP 35/36. The one with WU.
Reason To Play OW. Blizz doesn’t screw over thier own underpicked and weaker Heroes, and if they do, its in the ptr and is soon reverted.

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#43

PC player. [1.6k pvp games, 600 pve]

Why:

  • No playerbase. When you play against the same people for 5 months, it gets boring. You know what every single player will bring to the table. You can just calculate the outcome of the match before it even starts.

  • Lack of meaningful and reasonable balance changes. Their first priority should have been to balance the characters first and only then jump on releasing/producing the DLCs. IMHO. For example they said they are looking into some characters - after 2-3 months, not a single meaningful change to them. Ye.

  • Bots battle. It didn’t improve anything. Player base didn’t rise a single bit. Veteran PvE players jumped from PvE to this mode and made Public PvE a nightmare without a single living being. Stats, titles and challenges become worthless. Now if you go with “Angel of Death” everyone will probably think that you just farmed the bots for a few weeks and that you don’t deserve the title anyway and the meaning of the title is worth the same as the lvl 2 character ones. I’ve seen so many players bragging about their Pentas and Quads which they gained from the bots battle… Now bots battle is just a quicker way to complete the daily quest and be done with the game for 3 days. Good job on destroying the purpose of the quests! [bringing back players to play the REAL modes: missions or pvp] I hate bots battle, made this game a PvB game in the worst way possible. This was the biggest nail in the coffin for me, and it can’t be fixed now. [At least they should have made this mode not to register kills/assists/deaths/wins/losses on the career page and left the truly hard titles still hard to achieve and only in PvP]

  • Servers

  • Letting premades to play vs solo players.

  • Not fixing the bugs for months.

  • Random: their PAX East presentation was just sad. When you talk about the game only from the past perspective, pointing out some random and meaningless stats - the game is already dead. [The same thing we experienced with Diablo 3 the past several Blizzcons].

Battleborn was (is?) a good game, made many new friends with it. Cheers to that. But I moved on (still lurking in these forums tho).

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#44

I’m not gone yet, but I’m basically clinging to the side of a cliff and all the negative aspects mentioned above by people is stomping on my poor fingers.

I love(d) the game BUT I’m being systematically broken by a whole bunch of ■■■■ I’m just not liking.

Updates seem to be non-existent since Jan. 19th, we’re nearing April…Not even simple ■■■■ like skins/taunts to keep even the slightest of novelty to the game is being added regularly. And no, I’m not going to count the abominations that are those “special queues” like Warfare rumble as “new content”.

Hot-fixes is a source of pure unadulterated RAGE for me. The section is there and all I see week after week is “we are not gonna do anything this week, but we’re keeping track of blah blah blah blah” if not that infuriating “NOTHING HAPPENS: THE HOTFIX” it’s a hotfix for some random BS nobody cares/cared about…Stolen Edge really needed to be fixed that bad, eh? There are sooooo many heated arguments for certain changes to be made to certain characters yet we aren’t getting anything…OH WAIT…people are totally asking for MOAR MELLKA NERFS! This Battleplan issue is really my main source of frustration. When I don’t see anything being done for WEEKS on end, it shows that maybe nothing is going to be done EVER in a timely fashion. If something is broke FIX IT. If something isn’t broke, leave it the ■■■■ alone.

The Pax East Fiasco just really ■■■■■■ me up though, I wasn’t expecting MUCH, but I was expecting something more elaborate than “NOTHING HAPPENED: THE COMPANY!” Waste of time to watch; slap to the face to all GBX fans, and a disgusting display of inconsideration by the company to afterwards act like it was the hottest ■■■■ that ever happened. It was a complete failure of an event, brush it off under a rug, and move on with intents to improve and not make the same mistake next year. (I swear to god I better not see another damn Magic trick or musical performance or I’m going to start joining ISIC in punching kittens).

Also to a smaller extent I’m growing weary of the slightly increasing, yet a bit subtle, lack of communication between Devs and Community. It went from a very quick and very transparent communication practice at the start, to a very SLOW and very cryptic form of communication. “We can’t say at this moment”, “We want to do this, but no promises yet”, or just “SOON!”.

There are plenty of other stuff that irks me with the game, but it’s small things that aren’t worth mentioning, it’s relevant because they all add up. 1,000 small annoyances become a big pain in my ass.

ANNNND that’s the end of my rant. Had to let it out.

As of now I’m just spectating Twitch streams hoping to get motivations to play, occasionally playing to complete daily quests to earn plat in hopes that one day new taunts/skins will be added that I care for, and sometimes to play with friends when they invite.

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#45

Posting this as a feeling, since it’s related.
Yesterday my daughter, who’s nicer than me, wanted to play BL2.
I have a lot of Steam accounts, they’re loaded with Gearbox games.
So we fired up BL2 and had a blast.
Then I thought about this thread, honest.
We had more fun than I do in BB. The connections are right, the gear is right, etc.
Here she is btw:

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