Gaige build idea from someone who is new to Gaige

Borderlands 2 Gaige the Mechromancer
#71

[quote=“maxageddon, post:70, topic:1290827”]I don’t think I’m going to spec into DFA otherwise, from what I read, this can get triggered too randomly for my tastes.[/quote]It is quite possible to manage Death From Above procs, but you kind of need to always have it in the back of your head and maintain a situational awareness about it, which can detract from the combat if you don’t enjoy that sort of auxiliary management.

If I’m going to put 5+ points into it (with a COM), I’ll use a Discord Loop build, where my Anarchy stacks rarely clear 50, but I constantly get a fresh pile of 25 at a time with Rational Anarchist. Otherwise I find that it consumes Anarchy faster than I earn it.

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#72

That’s my main detractor from it. It sounds like a fun skill, but outside of playing around with it and a flakker on occasion, I don’t really want to have another skill that takes away too many stacks since I rely on discord for healing, and I like to keep my stacks within a certain range to maintain damage output

#73

The thing with DFA is that you can kinda control it. If you need a damage spike, jump and burst down that badass. If you want to keep your stacks up, stay in the ground.

And if you ocasionally gets thrown in the air and shoot, the 2 sec cooldown is going to keep your stacks safe until you hit the ground.

The main problem with DFA is that you need to pass Nth Degree, and it is really amazing with Gaige main guns like the Fibber, Pimpernel and Hail.

#74

[quote=“l_gabrielcruz, post:73, topic:1290827”]The main problem with DFA is that you need to pass Nth Degree[/quote]What do you mean?

#75

You have to pick one of the due to skill points. At least it is my case, as I have no skill to trade for it.

#76

I can find ways to get both. I’d have to sacrifice extra health or extra defense, but http://bl2skills.com/mechromancer.html#550000150551050040000000413150151550

#77

Is DFA considered a worthwhile skill to have now or is it just something you wanted to try out?

#78

Yeah, it is viable but as I play LBT/OC, I can not past 25 points in OC in order to get MiS and Upshot Robot. But, to be honest, Im thinking about swaping both as the last time I used the Fibber, Pimpernel and the Hail was running through the peak. Im more of a TBall Fists man now, so I may find more use in DFA outside of the peak. Hmmm
The only downside is that the Storm is pretty amazing with the Nth Degree as it doubles the number of orbs. Even the Tball Fists is pretty good with Nth Degree.

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#79

Got a buff in the last patch, pretty viable.

#80

DFA is mostly viable in a low anarchy build where you use it along with discord and rational anarchist to create a loop. It’s a nice alternative to using 100+ stacks as you still get higher damage but you retain your accuracy and don’t need to spend time stacking it beforehand. It’s a little less potent though.

I don’t think it’s compatible with a typical high anarchy build: every single time you are on half a step in the air or on uneven ground, you’re gonna see stacks drop. That has always been the biggest caveat people had with that skill. Spending stacks by accident is easier than keeping them up.

#81

I think that, with TI, stacking again the ones lost is pretty fast. I have yet to run with it in the higher levels, but the 2 sec CD is enough time to allow you get the stacks. Especially with a low mag Shottie such as Jakobs.
You can get 2 from the reload and two from the kill, basically making up for the loss.
11/5 is another story, thou.

#82

I am just trying it out. Just got into UVHM, and now have enough points to test a few options to see what I like moving forward.

#83

@Carlton_Slayer @l_gabrielcruz I have been mulling over some weapon choices as I move forward, and curious about your opinions on this (since you both appear to run a more LBT focused build). If I were to not spec down LBT, but use something like a shock pimp as one of the primary weapons, would that still be a good choice? I am really curious about going to the LBT tree as I try out a few things, but kind of curious about the viable of a shock based weapon as a primary on a non dot build (was planning on using a shock bone if I go this route). Basically, would a shock pimp be good on an anarchy BFF build, if I am not boosting shock outside of a bone?

Edit: Also thinking about this as an alternate, primarily for the boost via WDT, but I don’t know if the 15% is going to do much without being buffed to 10/5 on WDT (would be using a leg anarchist com with this route)

#84

Your suggested alternative is similar to what I’m currently running, which is a variant of the level 72 builds in this post using mostly shock weapons, and it’s a blast. (The level 50 variant with a shock Hail and Kitten are also good fun!) I’m favouring Electrical Burn over Shock Storm, and I take the points from Strength of Five Gorillas and put them elsewhere if I’m some place DT won’t be much help. I need to get a level 72 Hail still, but a shock Kitten, Storm, shock Rubi, and a shock Conference Call are pretty efficient for most mobs.

I think you’d be at a disadvantage using a shock weapon as a primary if you don’t invest into the relevant bits of LBT. You’d be better off going non-elemental, plus being able to swap between elements as needed for matching (e.g. corrosive on armoured etc.) So a good fire and corrosive always ready. If you’re keeping the IO for slag duties, then a good Tesla, Quasar, or Storm Front for shield removal lets you keep more options open in your primary gun slots.

#85

I was thinking that too. For versatility, I could element match pimps (go for an anarchy stacker, Fire and corrosive pimp, and an oh shit gun). If I did this, I wouldn’t go down LBT much, and stick with something more along the lines of this. Slag from MM, and maybe the sharing of the antagonist, and a lot of defense (FM is due to extra points not really going anywhere else, and is nice for Bosses w/o minions and BAs where the mob has died). Still planning on only using small mag guns and natural healing (although I could replace one of the slots with a rubi/grob and do more weapon swap outs). So suffice it to say, the more I think about game progression with Gaige, the more questions I have.

#86

There’s only one way to know for sure! I always find it interesting to see what other people come up with, and how they reached that point. Lot of experimentation involved!

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#87

Very true. I just got into UVHM, so now its full on experimentation time, haha

#88

Outside of a EB build with the Legendary Catalyst, shock weapons are viable if you get a Chaotic Good/Evil/Neutral that boosts WDT to +6/5. 30% multiplicative damage boost is solid and allows you to go with shock guns without trouble.

If you are not boosting WDT, match elements and go to town. Your two pimps + a stacker seems like Derch Twisted Pimp build, what is a good setup with Nth Degree.
Too bad Gaige does not have all that Slag built in her kit.

#89

Actually I haven’t run a LBT build since I started UVHM with Gaige so it’s been a few years :grin: The build you have here is close to what I’m currently running but to answer your question if you aren’t going much beyond the 2nd tier of skills in LBT then I’d say that just using element matching with the relevant Bone is most likely the best way to go. I’ve been farming the HS with her lately using a N.E Redundant Fibber so I use the Sheriff’s Badge a lot for that…

#90

hahaha, that was a good part of my influence in that. That and a few of your posts talking about the pimp’s interaction with nth degree really piqued my interest (I also have a full set of them for level 72 waiting for me). Very true on the slag. This is the first time I am planning on using grenades as my only slag source, although I am tempted to work in a grog or rubi into the main gear

Seems to be the consensus that I would be better off matching elements if I don’t go full LBT.

Thank you for all the advice as well, everybody. I greatly appreciate having the board to spitball ideas on. Absolutely rules!!