Would cooldown be useful for gear?

In my experience with him, not particularly. 5-6% cooldown only equates to a single second on his non-ulti abilities. So you’d need 3 items with cooldown to be very useful. However, the Chrono Key from Sentinel is fairly nice. Every 500 damage you deal reduces cooldowns by 1 second. Get a couple non-charged shots off with the level 3 sniper mutation and you get free cooldown. Crit with it and you can reduce it by even more. Or hell even nail a guy with Mortars using the shield-spending helix and you can get 3-4 seconds off a rift.

I’ll try to get the legendary, that sounds really good.

It’s extra funny when melee dive you in your rift farm while you have it up, killing themselves and feeding you free cooldown to replace what they break.

It’s silly the amount of raths that want to play around in Kleese’s rifts.

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Interestingly, Kleese barely scales with anything. His shield healing doesn’t scale with healpower, skill damage, anything, and the main damage of his mortars comes from the level 2 talent to dump his shields into it, otherwise they barely tickle even the squishiest of characters…So one of the better builds for him is defensive items to help mitigate his squishiness. I use a life regen that gives more life regen when my shields are down…and since Kleese gets a talent to just dump his shields into a mortar barrage…I can easily get life regen matching that of an Eldrid almost on demand as long as I’m not sitting in my rifts.

One of the items I want to get is the Root Tea. An Eldrid item that gives healpower and sprint speed, but the main prize is that every 6 seconds, if you sprint, you drop a health orb like the ones you pick up in PVE.

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That sounds like my build. The thing is Kleese scales thought the match.

Have you picked up the “Bouncing Balls of Death” mutation? It adds a surprising amount of damage to the Mortars(even when traited with Shiftless!) by helping to ensure they all hit.

Yup. That’s a fun one.

I just Kleese today, won three straight matches and of course NOW I find your amazing guide…I’m a fool. I was only being a middle of the road Evil Old Man! MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. I am ashamed and will use this guide to become a worthy old geezer I promise.

-Amazing Guide @douknowutdismean. Thanks for making it.

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Haha thanks!

Just in case no ones tried it or tested, it does seem that if you take Shocking Twist with Bouncing Balls helix, that the bouncing Mortars can ALSO replenish shields when passing/bouncing off Allies.

I’m unsure if Kleese himself can get shields from his own mortars though. I feel like sometimes, if I fire point blank at something I’ll see a couple ticks of shields, and other times never see anything.

i played kleese once and i died 2984289572 times because i didnt know that he was longrange and was constantly in the middle of the fight… worse… i didnt even understand what his secondairy button did so never used it after it did nothing in the spawnarea.

never underestimate the Taser. That thing may seem weak but it absolutely MELTS shields and works great as a ganking tool. My mates love it because of they get into hock I just run in drop a rift and open up with taser. Now their shields are always on while the enemies shields never come back. never forget how crazy the Taze is

Tried kleese again and sorry but have to disagree with you… his tazer does hardly any damage and often doesnt even work, even thoguh im aiming it at enemies… :confused: holding button does nothing while im getting killed in no time.

His turrets still dont do anything, they never help me when someone atacks me… still havent hit a single gravity ult something and his other shots are very hard to hit aswell cause they arc and tend to shoot over enemies their heads even if they stand in front of them… :confused:

I hope i unlock phoebe soon cause ill play her instead she looks like a good character… last time i faced one i couldnt do anything i got stuck beside a stairway as kelvin :confused:
I tend to constantly get stuck behind everything… probably one of the most obnoxious things in this game that really make me feel sabotaged all the time… wich is exactly a feeling i quit league over.

Any gear advice for someone that wants to try kleese out?

Ned to figure out how to quote. lemme add that to my to do list…

Anyhoo @calamarimonitor

Ok let me preface this by saying it;s not a insult and I intend to help you Kleese is A SUPPORT so that means: Your doing it wrong. Now now hold up! before you flag that I said it was not a insult and I am going to offer advice, like right now.

Taser is NOT a kill weapon, it;s a shield melter and GANK weapon. as in your gonna use it best if your being a sneaky dick. let your tanks engage and if you see them struggling float your old butt in, tase the enemy to kill their shields and RUN. you did enough killing their shields. Alternatively and there is a Taser damage helix up actually too- use it when a enemy has stupidly low HP to Gank, if they are trying to run pop out and ltaze em!

His Rifts ARE DEFENSIVE ONLY. They are not supposed to do anything, is says in the skills description " generates shield boosts for teammates, it requires a lvl 1 helix upgrade to actually shock enemies when it pulses. They are for support and evil body blocking. Says it in the skill, and in the guide above. So you goofed WHICH IS FINE. people make silly mistakes.

His ult is utility and CC at it;s finest, not a kill shot. It should be used on grouped enemies to pull them into a central murder zone or pull back and hold out minion waves and pushes, yes it does damage and can kill weakened enemies but it’s mostly used for hard CC and there is excells specially with careful targeting behind enemy tanks, it will rip them clear out of the line of fire and expose squishy melee and healers so easily. Also it can be used as a Ult setup. drop yours pull enerything and tell your nearest AOE juggernaut to let er rip. OM’s artillery barrage, Ambras meteor, any ulti or skill that deals big AOE loves a good Kleese.

Just from the vid and how your taking about him I can tell your playing him not as a support, you were often far too close to the combat zone - his lvl 3 or 4 helix mutation turns his main weapon into a sniper always use it- your job is to rift like nutter butter and support. Your playing like a basic healer or at worst midrange in capture, which unto itself is not support friendly unless your Miko or Alani. Kleese is labeled as “territprial” for a good reason, in that he works best and most effectively when in Incursion or Meltdown, where he can pop in, set up a HQ for his team and start literally controlling things with Rift placement and snipe mortars. if he;s always on the move he does suck.

BTW how in the heck do you not have Phobe she unlocks at a much lower Command Rank then Kleese and, even assuming you did story to get him you should have gotten Phobe before he even unlocked. Just curious.

@chelton91 Surely but they are odd. I run a damage up, a HP up and a Skill damage up. I know your thinking I’m stupid but hear me out.

The raw damage up helps my base attackls and Taser hit harder specially when you unlock the sniper mutation, those two at decent levels make me capable of full screen killing a Marquis in two fully charged bolts. not to mention the extra taser damage. the HP up helps me stay a bit tankier though a shield boost or any other effect is welcome here as well. - that said later on he does have Helix upgrades to his shield so maybe focus on HP- and the Skill damage may seem like a waste but I spec as a controller offensive kleese so My mortars hit hard and you cannot believe how many assists I rake up with my damage rifts out in a proper grid. Absolutely wrecks if your dilligent.

I’m sure others run different loadouts but mine has served me remarkably well. and it;s not even anything special, blues and greens mostly.

1: why would i be insulted? lol…

2: dont know how i didnt have phoebe i just never make kills in pvp ever… even when i play carry champs i just die over and over…because i cant hit anything, only time i finally killed some people was when i played the wizard girl with the spider arms but i think thats cause i was lucky cause i just aimlessly threw around her aoe’s, thats when i unlocked phoebe (yesterday evening did) but before that never… hitting things in this game is very hard for me because everything moves way too fast and i do not have the reaction speed of a kid anymore… im getting older…

3: atm im contemplating returning this game to the store, i wont get back all my money . …40 euros… probably will get back 15 euros… hmz

I just have no fun in this game i only die 24/7 and get stuck behind everything and everything is way too chaotic and frustrating… i have attention deficit disorder and this game is definately not friendly toward people with it.

i turned in the game, got 25 euros back so ohwell.

bye guys.

I have been trying to get better with Kleese, to get used to his playstyle and your guide has been very helpful. I will say though, that while I love the damage output possible with quantum precision, I can’t hit the broad side of a barn with it :cry:

The higher rate of fire for his standard wrist cannon is a lot more forgiving when you are dealing with quick, dodgy characters, lag, or my own fat fingers tripping over themselves lol.