Well if you feel like you only ever encounter thinner bodied characters play an assassin or something. You can still be very helpful to your team getting your local thrall every 2 minutes mids every 5 minutes and blowing up buildings/sunspots/rifts/scraptraps. Even if you struggle to hit the moving players you can still act like a lightning bolt striking the field and impacting it in some way
On the topic of Kleese I donāt see him being super OP atm. His tazer could prolly get toned down a bit but they shouldnāt hurt it by much. He just seems like a character that melees should REALLY try to avoid
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deemsss123
(Gt: YaCantDutchThis)
#7
I agree with Marquis not being a good option anymore.
His skills are not very interesting(Except for his revealing owls when playing against Pendles.) Both Thorn and Toby seem to deal more damage and are just as easy to hit targets with. (I do think you need to stand a bit closer as Thorn, but itās no problem for the character.)
His Ein, Zwei, Die damage should be higher. Like 35% maybe? And his normal rifle damage⦠I think itās OK, but they just canāt nerf all of his damage. So something needs to get buffed a bit. Rifle damage or Ein, Zwei, Die.
I play Montana a lot, and Marquis was really dangerous before the nerfs. Now⦠I can just walk in the same lane, and after he has shot me like 10 times I can just simply run away, and teleport to base.
This is different with Thorn. She uses Volley, or Blight and I will start running already. She is extremely fast so she WILL chase me and I need to get to base before my health drops too much.
Maybe they need to rework Marquisā helix if they want his rifle to be as weak as it is nowā¦
faveveid
(faveveid)
#8
Marquis is really good for me on ps4. Played a lot of him yesterday and had a many good games. One was 22 and 2 in KD however that doesn“t prove that he is good and KD isn“t all that matters
cadecampbell
(Aurox, omnidimensional horror)
#9
That is weird I always felt I was on point
cadecampbell
(Aurox, omnidimensional horror)
#10
I still agree they went to far, ein, zwei, die does not feel worth it honestly I say they bring it back to normal and slightly up his rifle damage (I feel thorn is overtuned to be honest donāt you)
kennysded
(Kennysded)
#11
Oh you very well could be. If you hit dead center, itāll still work
if you hit the edge of their head, it might miss. But that may just be because Iām a bad sniper. Which Iād believe, if I didnāt land my thorn shots just fine. As well as no shield Toby shots 
cadecampbell
(Aurox, omnidimensional horror)
#12
No shield toby shots are so HARD I applaud you for that
kennysded
(Kennysded)
#13
Thank you. And yet when Iām marquise I canāt hit Atticus. I wish I were kidding.
Goldhawk1
(Goldhawk1)
#14
500 kills and 100 deaths with marquis suggests I DONāT have issues that I myself need to work out.
Goldhawk1
(Goldhawk1)
#15
right? Like you hit some people (even minions sometimes) square in the chest or shoulder and the bullet just doesnāt count lol. Like there wasnāt already enough of a handicap with him.
cadecampbell
(Aurox, omnidimensional horror)
#16
Well that was the past, NOW he is harder to play with health and damage nerds, but I still agree he needs buffs
cadecampbell
(Aurox, omnidimensional horror)
#17
Your welcome, I never have these problems as marquis to be honest
hanautaBOB
(RIP Battleborn :()
#18
just āre-fixā him to before that update and Iām super happyā¦
⦠was a bit disapointed that the Platinum exclusive Taunt just uses a random Killing quote, but it diesnāt matter if I donāt play him anymoreā¦
But if he gets Buffed, even a little, i will play my Favorite again.
Goldhawk1
(Goldhawk1)
#19
He was my favorite too, but heās just an assist machine at best.
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kennysded
(Kennysded)
#20
Iām gonna be honest. Iām so happy he got destroyed.
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cadecampbell
(Aurox, omnidimensional horror)
#21
Whoa he has not been destroyed, sure he could use some reversions but he is still good
kennysded
(Kennysded)
#22
Sorry. Nerfed almost into his deathbed is what I meant 
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cadecampbell
(Aurox, omnidimensional horror)
#24
Almost, the hobo killer LIVES (he is making self adjustments to be better for a later time)
julenotaola
(julenotaola)
#25
Ok.i insist and suggest . He had a nerf of 15% in bindlebane. I have no problem with the health.but maybe a 5% increase of damage of bindlebane? Only with the snipe. I will vote yes