What makes you think the art team is responsible for balancing?
They didnāt. I chose the digital deluxe edition over the standard edition to support the gameās future and the developers. Donāt put the onus on the consumers to āsupportā the game/devs by purchasing microtransactions after weāve paid as much as humanly possible already. Thatās some stone cold bull****
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You paid for the core game, and for the 5 DLC packs which are in development. You did not pay for the development of new maps. You did not pay for the development of new modes. You did not pay for the development of new characters. You did not pay for any of the content they are going to be releasing for free. Only itās not free. Nothing is every free. Someone somewhere is always paying. Most people just donāt want it to be them. Should we just not bother asking for any new content in the game other than that which is included in the DLC packs and paid for directly? Or should we just stick to the core game and not bother adding anything at all?
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Maybeā¦ and is a huge MAYBEā¦ those skins were always a marketplace only stuff. We will never know.
They could say now they were meant to be that but we will never know if that was the case or 2K saw the sales for the game and wanted more bucks and ask Gearbox to sell those T2 skins people were hyping so much.
Problem? Weāll never know the truth because they never came forward and say: This is it or that.
When people asked when about the T2 skins, they said soon. When people asked if they were about to be release in the market for coin in the game or in packs, because people was hoarding them, even commander ones, they didnāt say a thing.
Maybe was the plan all alone, maybe guys at 2k changed their minds, weāll never know but when you let people run rampant in your game taking a concrete idea and then they get piss when you say/deliver that idea in another way, is your fault. This is the backslash for no communication and being clear just to keep the marketplace under wraps trying to figure out a way to resist said backslash.
Because, yeah, when microtransactions werenāt present in the release, we thought, I thought that at least, they were gonna present them in the future, maybe with a dlc or two in their belt. And taking how little time the first dlc for Borderlands 2 took, around a month and half or twoā¦ Wasnāt so insane to think that.
In fact Blizzards maybe didnāt have microtransactions in beta but they were present in day one, they werenāt fooling anyone. And also, when the boxes are a lottery, they are more acceptable for two reasons: You can earn those boxes infinite because the game have not limits to leveling and the boxes also drop gold and duplicates gives gold, so eventually you can buy what you really want.
And the thing microtransactions are there to fund further things for the gameā¦ also the same is for the seasonās pass and dlcs. I didnāt pay to have that content so they could ask me for more money to make that content, it doesnāt make sense.
Also, for people saying āSkins doesnāt affect gameplayāā¦ True, really true but I like to costumize my characters and in mmos or rpgs I try to make them all special I can and the more unique, the best. For me is important to be able to have a character I like with a costumization I like.
Hey, I canāt care less if they implement or not a deathmatch mode (because I like more pvp with objectives) but Iāll bust my ass asking for it too if pleases my fellow community members.
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Yeah, thatās how it should go. But the Euro prices seem to be (pretty significantly) cheaper than the dollar ones.
It doesnāt matter what they use that money for. Iām talking about charging schemes only. Thereās a honest scheme and thereās a trick-based scheme. If you mix them both, you get a trick-based scheme with an initial charge of 60-75$, that gets it all even worse than just a trick-based scheme itself.
Yes, Iām just cheap. I paid $125 for the most expensive version of the release game because I donāt want to support future content by purchasing microtransactions. You saw right through me!
Speaking of that dlc content that I paid forā¦ where is it? You are being downright condescending and insulting to people like myself who donāt want to purchase microtransactions to, in your opinion, support content beyond the planned dlc/characters/skins/taunts. I havenāt seen what I paid for, but Iām a problem because I wonāt support something that they will potentially maybe make after everything else is released???
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Thank you for posting that. I hope no one decides they got the exchange rates wrong and tries to āfixā it. That would make me feel like a real jerk.
Also, letās be very clear here
THEY CHOSE TO MAKE THESE FOR FREE
I didnāt decide to not pay for these. There was literally no option. There was no super mega ultra edition for this game that I could have purchased. Donāt defend the business practice of GBX by blaming the players for not supporting the free content that they chose to make for free.
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Well, to me on PS4 9300 Plat is 49,99ā¬. So no. There was no conversion. I literally would have to pay a sh*t ton more than Americans. Great.
If the conversion on PS4 was only nearly as great as on Steam you could count me in to buy a least one skin, but this is just ridiculous and super unfair.
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Do you know whoās paying? I am. I donāt play PVP and I donāt need all those new PVP maps and PVP modes, and I bought DDE so new heroes arenāt free for me. I paid for everything I have and will have in future. I paid my fair price for all my content, why the heck do I have to pay huge overprice for new extras for them to use my money to create free content for some other guys I have zero relation to? I didnāt pay full-price to become a charity, no way! It was a fair deal and now itās not. Itās unacceptable.
I paid a fair price for all my content and I have a strong ground to await an equally fair price for extras. Hell, no, Iād even donāt mind to buy overpriced extras if they werenāt trying to make a fool out of me with their fake currency scheme.
This whole situation annoys me to the extreme.
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I donāt care bought for Ā£8 on platinum bought 2 skins and 1 taunt and got left for 1 more skin but didnāt decide yet. I can spend Ā£8 on something like this it doesnāt break my bank. And its a choice people, they do not force you to buy anything, itās only cosmetics! So if you think itās to much let it go people. And everybody has their favourites so you donāt want them all anyway. I am convinced that ever single person here can save $10 in a month or even in 2 months to buy the skins they really want. If you donāt want to spend more moneyā¦ too bad no skins for you. So stop wining please. thanks
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This is a fair point, although some games do add content for free, and even if we have no right to it, it does feel like an unscrupulous move to introduce paid merchandise before what we actually already bought.
My biggest problem with microtransactions is not being asked to pay for new content, but how that content has been implemented and pushed on us. I get the argument that if you want something you should have to pay for it. But microtransactions have been pushed with considerable aggression in this game.
Theyāre very dominant in the interface itself. Not only is the āmarketplaceā integrated into the HUD - with ingame, fictional transactions for bank space etc in the same place - my list of appearance items that I earned in game now includes advertisements for paid cosmetics. This is a very intrusive marketing tactic and itās something I would be disappointed in even in a free to play game (and many free to play titles donāt do this). On top of which, the paid currency is very manipulative, makes you pay potentially more than the transaction itself, and offers a pretty bad deal.
I donāt have a right to extra content without paying more money. Ok. Thatās not an excuse to put this paid content deeply into the game so that itās not possible to play without constantly being asked to buy it. Thatās not fair. Itās a deliberate attempt to get players to spend as much extra money as possible.
āIf you donāt want to pay then donāt.ā Well, I donāt want to pay. I already paid, a lot. Why canāt I stop my game being flooded with advertisements?
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Man, that is super weird. Both prices seem very wrongā¦ What happened here GBX :'d
Maybe itās Sonyās dirty hands in it. I donāt know if they ever convert virtual currency to its respective value but Iām sure as hell even more pissed than before. The dollar prices were ridiculous already, but this just takes the cake.
If they really have to lock the skins behind a paywall I at least want to get them for the same value as Americans and not be forced to pay even higher prices just because Iām European and play on a PS4.
@ Gearbox/2k do your āmagicā and for the love of God convert the prices. This is hella unfair.
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I wouldnāt mind if they didnāt convert my prices. The 49.99 pack is 75.99 in the PS store here in Australia 
Holy friggin sh*t man. Now THAT takes the cake. I donāt know the value of AUSD but this looks extreme. Jesus, I hate capitalism. Of all the sudden I donāt feel quite as bad about our nonexistent conversion anymore. Wanna come over and buy some for 50ā¬? lmao
Ha! I would if I was going to actually buy anything. Itād cost me $106 aud to buy all of the skins and taunts they have released - so far lol. By comparison, a brand new full price AAA game is 99.95 here.
I bought 1625 plat (I think?) for ā¬9,99. I have 135 left. Thatās ā¬0,83. I bought 3 skins plus a taunt.
It makes skins ā¬2,58 a piece and my taunt cost ā¬1,43. I suck at anything with numbers tho unless it involves shopping for clothes.
I like way more skins, but Iām not buying them before I get some DLC content thatās hopefully also nice for mainly PvE players like me. And I hope the skins theyāre promising with the DLC are coming soon too.
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One thing all these complainers forget:
"if everything would be for free, who would pay the server- and traffic-/bandwithcosts, since we play and are connected the entire time to servers?"
GBX needs a steady cashflow to run all these thingsā¦ itās not like borderlands which is a localhost and peer-to-peer game.
Cosmetics is a good way to earn some money to keep things running, else they would have to charge us a monthly fee (like most mmorpgs did and do) or have to release a shitload of dlcs that a needed to progress or change the meta.
We should be happy that they decided to chose cosmetics and that they didnāt overprice them at all compared to every single game out there (not only mobas, but all the games that are running servers).