Graveyard Moze. The most powerful Gunner build I've ever made

Back in January, I experimented with a Terror build for Moze which, at the time, I considered to be very powerful. Now, with lv.72 and seasonal events active any time we like, I have reworked this build and it has become more powerful than any Gunner build I have ever made. You can see the original post topic here, but I thought I would make a fresh topic so that people won’t miss in down in the depths of an old thread.

So we here go, Graveyard Moze.

Let’s start with the gear
There’s a wide range of guns we can go for, so we’ll come to that later, but I thought it would be worth starting with 5 particular pieces of gear which synchronise in a particular way to bring out some spectacular damage.

  1. Redundant Facepuncher.
    Anoint: Melee Attacks have a 25% chance to apply Terror to yourself.

This is all about applying Terror to yourself. Triggering Groundbreaker easily is a nice perk, but this is really here to apply 3 stacks of Terror with extreme ease. That takes us onto our shield and grenade.


2. Infernal Wish.
Anoint: While Terrified, gain ammo regeneration. The more Terror you have, the higher the bonus.

Thank goodness we have the reroll machine, because farming this would be a literal Terror otherwise. For those not in the know, the Infernal Wish grants an additional projectile per shot while your shield is up. For Moze, who has ways of keeping up her shield indefinitely, this can effectively mean double damage all the time. Then there are a few guns which can take this even further, but we will come to that later. Nice to boosters on this if you can - not only do they regen your shield, but they can also be triggered by the DOT created by the shield itself.

The anoint, I considered the Terror Health Regen but that is calculated from your max health. Now when we have a standard shield of ~290k, receiving ~3,120 per second is not very impressive. The ammo regen, however, at full stacks gives 21% of your mag per second. That’s more than double what Moze can get by going all the way down the Bottomless Mags tree. Yeah. With this, we can take all green tree damage perks and ignore the rest.

Onto the grenade.


3. Cloning Maddening Tracker.
Anoint: While Terrified, gain increased damage and fire rate. The more Terror you have, the higher the bonus.

The previous iteration of this build took advantage of the Vindicator Ghast Call. Unfortunately, this grenade can’t drop with anoints (and for some reason it didn’t seem to be proccing Vampyr either) so it’s back to the old faithful. The CMT, great for proccing Vampyr and Redistribution via Pull the Holy Pin. Usually, we wouldn’t see this as a source of damage, but in this build it can put in some work.

The main thing here is the anoint. The damage is in a category of its own, applying to all sources of damage and going up to 35% at 3 stacks, and the fire rate is a substantial 21%. Combined, our damage increases by 63.35% through this anointment alone. Very powerful. I think we have been sleeping on it as a community. The possibilities are endless…

Let’s just pause for a second. So far, 3 pieces of gear. Before picking up a gun or skill point, we’re getting over triple the damage along with more ammo regen than the entire green tree — all this just for shooting your Facepuncher once or twice. That’s before adding in Urad…


4. Class mod: Bloodletter.

Not normally the most powerful class mod, but when we think about how it can keep up our Infernal Wish all the time, its synergy with Urad, its gets enough punch to blow the hair back on a wookie. If possible, look for points in Desperate Measures and Phalanx Doctrine. Decent rolls would be: weapon crit, splash, action skill cooldown, action skill damage and mag size. Someone sent me a perfect one the other day: 3 Desperate Measures, 2 Phalanx Doctrine, weapon crit, splash, action skill damage. Mwah! Perfection.

Final piece of gear before we get into the skill tree.


5. Atom Balm Deathless.

Previously, we procced Urad through a Storm Front/Pearl set up. The Infernal Wish replaced our shield, however, so Deathless becomes the next best move. Atom Balm fits the amount of radiation in the build extremely nicely. Suddenly our Infernal Wish is twice as bulky and those radiation explosions really kick. Mine is lv.65 and has splash, radiation damage and mag size on it. Again, mwah!

I think that’s enough on gear for now. Let’s move onto…

The skill trees.
I’ve done a lot of tweaking here, so there’s piles of explanation to go through. I’ll take it one tree at a time.

This is a pretty standard spec and definitely Moze’s best tree.

  • You could easily move the Iron Bank points to Torgue Cross Promotion if you like. It depends on the weapons you want. We already have ~80% splash damage from our com and artifact so an extra 30% isn’t as good as it sounds, particularly when it comes with the added bonus of being able to kill you.
  • If you find you’re not getting enough from Vampyr, feel free to take a point or two from Specialist Bear.
  • Auto Bear is worth taking, a) for the damage and b) for the Guardian Takedown gimmicks I’ll mentioned in Dakka Bear below.
  • I believe Fire in the Skag Den is currently boosted by Iron Bear damage so having points in Specialist Bear, Stainless Steel Bear and Scorching RPMs all help.

  • Cloud of Lead. Best way to get down the tree. Not really necessary, but the little bit of damage is nice.
  • Dakka Bear. Beyond co-op antics, try jumping into the turret during the crystal stages / Anathema’s bubbles in the Guardian Takedown. You’ll see…
  • Stoke the Embers. One of Moze’s best skills. Grab it, grab it!
  • Redistribution and Rushin’ Offensive aren’t the best, but the add a nice little bit to our ammo regen and survivability. Put these points in Scrappy if you like.
  • Scorching RPMs. 3 stats which multiply with the rest our kit? Yes, please!
  • Specialist Bear. Awesome multiplier for Iron Bear / Cub’s damage. Love it.
  • The Iron Bank. Depending on what weapons you’re running, you may want to move these points to Torgue Cross Promotion. Less likelihood of having to reload or that bit more splash damage? Up to you.

  • Security Bear is a nice pickup whether you choose to go Iron Bear or Iron Cub (and the build is good with both). Iron Cub will arguably be better because a) it’s pretty awesome already, b) it’ll benefit from Urad and our terror damage anoint, c) we’ll be getting all options for the railguns.
  • Armored Infantry is just to get us down to the tree.
  • Drowning in Brass, 6 points in Desperate Measures and 2 points in Phalanx Doctrine gives us a base line of +100% gun damage and sometimes way more. No need to take Scrappy, Click Click, Harmonious Havoc or any other gun damage skills.
  • Experimental Munitions. Not always the best, but nice when it’s boosted by Urad and the Terror damage anoint.
  • I tried various combos and 3 points in Thin Red Line and 1 in Vladof Ingenuity give us the highest shield while getting us down the tree.

Not much to say here, other than the fact Big Surplus gives you massive damage whenever you’re on cooldown. Worth taking, but not worth going any further down the tree.

Finally we should talk about the…


GUNS :boom::fire::zap:

This spec is pretty open to different guns, but I do have some recommendations.

I mentioned we’re taking Urad on all our guns, right? Probably only 2 or 20 times. Well, we are. Urad on all the things.

Whichever guns we use should be a) splash weapons, b) low pellet count on account of the Infernal Wish (preferably one, but two is not that bad), c) best elements would be fire, cryo or corrosive. Shock or radiation aren’t really necessary. Urad goes very nicely on cryo weapons.

As an additional point, I would think carefully about your range from enemies. Mid to long range weapons are preferable, especially if you took Torgue Cross Promotion. There are a lot of explosions in this build and Moze doesn’t do well against her own splash damage.

Then I’d have a few personal favourites, centred around how guns interact with the Infernal Wish:

  • Guns which are already good with Moze get better. Plaguebearer, Backburner, Free Radical, Beacon, Gargoyle, Major Kong, Trevonator, Plasma Coil, Yellowcake…
  • The Craps can occasionally shoot 5 pellets for the price of one. It will now shoot 10. The stickies + the ammo regen are also really nice for bossing damage.
  • Soulrender gets double skulls.
  • Nukem becomes pretty tasty if you can handle the arc.
  • Atlas Replay goes bonkers.
  • Ember’s Purge will create pools really fast and those pools are effected by splash bonuses, Stoke the Embers, Urad and the Terror damage anoint.
  • It might possible to make the Hive work with this set up. Just take corrosive, not radiation.
  • Haven’t tested it, but a Tiggs Boom might get double comets. I should check this…
  • If you wanted to try a COV version of this (especially since she now has a matching outfit), I would move the floating points from The Iron Bank / Torgue Cross Promotion to Matched Set and go with a variety of the Gargoyle, Zheitsev’s Eruption, Rebound, Globetrottr, Major Kong and Yellowcake. You’d still have plenty of splash damage and ammo regen and - 33% heat per shot for your effort.

If you want some crazy damage, shoot your Facepuncher to trigger the anoints, fire a few shots from a Plaguebearer, then switch to a Urad Guardian Angel. Yeah… Your Plaguebearer will be doing 7 times the damage before the Guardian Angel gets stacked on top. Mr. Torgue would weep for joy.

And there we have it! Ghozte Moze 2.0.

Ok, maybe Mr. Torgue isn’t weeping for joy. I think he’s in love.

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Good stuff @damien_hine! A nice, well themed Moze build with an offering besides IrOn BeAr Go BoOm.

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Does Thin Red Line’s shield increase stack with a Deathless? I assume yes? I have never tried it.

EDIT: Also cool build @damien_hine! But dang, you gotta have a lot of very specific gear. Also, I don’t think the Flipper gets double projectiles from the IW. It just gets a projectile added overall. So the 9 becomes 10, not 18. At least I think so.

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I think Thin Red Line does because the increase from it was far bigger than when I tried 5 points in Vladof Ingenuity.

The gear, yeah, maybe a little specific, but anoints can be rerolled now and any Bloodletter / Deathless will do. I was more showing what the optimum would be.

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Thanks! I did some pretty big calculations and a lot of tweaking to come to this point. You never know how good it’s gonna be until you try it out so to see it be this good is satisfying.

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I tracked down the video which informed the Flipper gets 18 projectiles and it turns out I should have been more discerning. Comments section has plenty of people saying it doesn’t work that way. I’ll cut out that part of my original guide. Thanks :+1:

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Wait…are you saying that if I jump in Dakka Bear…right before Anathemas Bubbles….I and Iron Bear will survive?

Seems like a plausible strategy to stay on that center platform throughout the fight…With waaaay more uptime for IB. And those Corrosive Sabots just WRECK!

A little off topic but……Other Strategy I have found is wear a Gas Mask with a 73% fight for your life time perk on the artifact. (+123% total FFYL time, Gas Mask plus Artifact)

Get downed by the bubble…so what…stand still and dish out damage….you will have over a minute of FFYL time…usually waaay more if you are applying constant damage. Over a minute is an eternity in this game.

Whenever you want to come back up…find a small enemy and take him out…

Rinse…repeat.

If you jump into Iron Bear, pump the corrosive railguns into Anathema’s face, jump out and hop into Dakka Bear then the bubble will destroy Iron Bear and leave you unharmed. By this time, you normally will have Iron Bear back since throughout Moze’s stay in Dakka Bear the Guardian perk Topped Off will be cooling down your action skill overtime. Anathema is really fast with Moze. You can literally hope in and out of Iron Bear and do it in 2 or 3 minutes.

And before / after that the crystals will keep charging while you are in Dakka Bear. You might be surrounded on every side but those crystals will just keep going.

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Thanks…IB goes down…but you don’t…and IB comes right back up…

Makes sense…

Good info, thanks!

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Nice build and write up. Well done. In fact, that’s pretty epic, Damo.

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Haha thanks!

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