So most of y’all agree that we can leave the carnage off the list. That brings up my next question how about the hawkeye
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Ahh…I see…
The gun D mentions that has thrown me for a loop is the Hawkeye…
Because last time I tested it…with max base damage multipliers…with a Bee…with a Critical hit and with a Chaotic Evil com with the Critical Hit bonus…with 5/5 in Duty Calls…and with my turret running…
It was still outperformed by an Elemental Venture Morningstar (Elemental far outperforms NE on Axton in most cases. Bekah with Bee is an exception but Bekah comes with some baggage/considerations).
And the Morningstar is far, far easier to get.
And a body shot from a Hawkeye is just plain…bad…and that FR…and the mag size.
I need to retest that weapon…
I was thinking about the Carnage now after Demonite video. It seems like a good shotgun and as he said Axton has some synergy with guns that dont crit due to his gun damage bonus from Impact, Battlefront and Onslaught.
What about merging the Flakker and the Carnage in one slot in the HM section? One is the absolut best for large sized foes while the other can be effectively used against small foes.
You keep bringing up the morning star the way you talk about it I almost want to add it and maybe top gear I’ll go pick one up and hope its decent parts.
I thought about doing this actually I think we should.
Well…NO sniper is really exceptional on Axton except the Pimp…maybe the Lyuda in a pinch…but the Morningstar is a decent alternative compared to a bunch of others.
Yeah I know what you mean. I’m going to pick one up in a few and do some test runs with it.
Venture Prefix if you can get it.
And Element matching maximizes it. Fire is my favorite but anything but slag would be fine
I gues one advantage to the Hawkeye is you aren’t worried about Element matching
Being on ps3 quest reward farming is how do I say a PITA. I’ll see if tanker has one up for trade later. I’ll just hope for a non Jacobs stock and either fire or corrosive
Jakobs grip isnt actually bad on Snipers as it max the damage from a single shot what is kinda the sniper thing.
Lets see what the guys think about the Carnage first. @Johnrr6 @Afro_Samurai @anon13808724 @DemoniteBL @Triad_Thunder
Hey guys, could we merge the Carnage with the Flakker as a “non-crit” guns spot or at least place it over the Slowhand? What do you guys think?
Managed to get a dahl stock Hyperion grip and fire on the first try only problem was the blade but still the morning star is so good.
I agree just want to point out that the gear isn’t in order from best to worst like the old one was.
And that hidden, climbing crit bonus…
Really underrated sniper IMHO
But that voice…LOL
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Oh that hidden crit is kinda ridiculous lol. I had it proc and it did almost double a normal crit.
Carnage is better damage than slowhand…but doesn’t heal…
With an Explosive Damage Relic it is still quite good…
TG? No, not with SG’s like the Swordsplosion.
But I can buy an HM.
But D’s gonna have to sell me on the Hawkeye as I feel it’s kinda the “coulda, woulda, shoulda” sniper rifle in this game
OK we will add the carnage in the same entry as the flaker and I’m with you on the hawk eye
The Flakker/Carnage merge sounds alright to me.
As far as the Hawkeye? I just think there are better options available.
Yeah Axton isn’t even a sniper and there’s already 7 good ones listed.
But that voice… Is actually my favorite thing about the gun. Some of the funniest lines in the game and I love the delivery. It’s a great sniper rifle too, particularly while leveling up. Is it top gear for Axton, though? Not sure about that. Same thing with the Hawkeye. We need to see how it compares to the other snipers that are already in. I’m also very curious as to why Demonite felt the need to suggest it. That’s a gun I never thought of using on Axton and that I never thought would show up here. What does Demonite knows that I don’t? Well, he probably knows a whole lot of things that I don’t, but I’m talking about the Hawkeye, specifically. 
Well, I already gave my opinion about the Carnage. I don’t think it’s anything that special, but it is decent and it can be better on Axton than on other characters. I wouldn’t mind if it was to be included, but I’m not advocating for its inclusion either. I don’t see a problem in having it share the same spot as the Flakker and explain Axton’s synergy with non-crit weapons in the text. That might be better than including it on its own. I’d say it either shares the spot with the Flakker on it isn’t a part of this list.