[Guide] Top Gear for Gaige, revamped (WIP)

Thanks to That_Guy42 for the Banner

Hey all, I’m going to be taking over the Gaige TG, Obviously it’s a major work in progress at the moment, I hope you all will bear with me while I fix up the formatting.
The intro is not a high priority, so this part is going to be a mess for a while, I hope it dosen’t bother anyone too much.
With the patch a while back and a few hotfixes since, I think a few peices of gear might need to be moved around. feel free to post your suggestions, but be aware that it may take some time to update, even if consensus is reached.

Weapons in the list are in no particular order.

Here are some links to help understand parts of guns and mechanics that effect them
Fallfromgrease’s Comparison of different OP8 weaponz, on OP8
Parts Guide
Comprehensive List of Gun Prefixes in Borderlands 2
Dear Doctor Dumbass: A guide to min/maxing
Link to other top Gear Threads for other classes
Max Shield Stats for multiple levels
Relic Effects and Magnitudes
Shield Part Spotters’ Guide
Top Gear For Gaige Youtube Playlist Thing]- thank you BlutFatal
Raid Boss Videos OP0 and OP 8

A few final notes before we jump into it:

  • unless otherwise noted, preferred stocks are Hyperion for shotguns and Dahl for everything else
  • Sights/Scopes are mostly personal preference, take whichever one you get/want



##Table of Contents



#Shotguns
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###Twister
:zap:

Its a really good gun with anarchy in general but it really shines in a LBT Gaige and should be in every Gaiges possesion.
Its a elemental Jacobs shotgun which means its gets the high Jacobs damage and the x2.3 critical multiplier plus elemental damage and splash damage.
Its very effecient in both OP8 and lvl 72.
Heres a full guide for it: Link

  • Ideal Parts: Jakobs grip
  • Prefixes: Rustlers
  • Obtaining: Omnd-Omnd-Ohk (DLC3 and HH5)

###Omen/Blockhead
Omen: :fire: :zap:   :no_entry_sign:
Blockhead: :fire:

With its fixed bullet spread it works perfectly with anarchy. It’s also just a great shotgun to have. It deals 100% splash damage which is boosted by anarchy. Bullets innately ricochet and therefore receives no penalties from close enough.

  • Ideal Parts: Tediore grip
  • Ideal Prefix: New and Improved (Omen), Gentle (Blockhead)
  • Obtaining:
    • Omen: Ancient Dragons of Destruction
    • Blockhead: Creepers

###Conference call/Interfacer/Butcher
:fire: :zap:   :no_entry_sign:

It’s one of the best shotguns for Gaige; that fast and unique firing pattern combined with Anarchy at any number of stacks and Close Enough makes for a powerful, incredibly fun weapon.

  • Ideal Parts: Bandit Grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Practicable
  • Obtaining: Warrior, Handsome Sorcerer (DLC4)

###Casual SWORDSPLOSION
:boom:

this shotgun is already insanely strong. Combined with anarchy this gun works wonders. Be extremely careful, this will start to kill you at around 200 stacks of anarchy. Not advised for high anarchy other than getting out of FFYL. Probably best to treat it more like a rocket launcher than a shotgun. Close enough applies to every little sword that comes out of the big sword.

  • Ideal Parts: Torgue grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Casual
  • Obtaining: Sword in the Stoner quest reward, DLC4

###Hydra
:no_entry_sign:

The very high pellet count at the cost of 3 ammo make this weapon among the most ammo-efficient weapons in the game in terms of projectile-to-ammo ratio, firing ~20 pellets at a time. This is another shotgun with a fixed spread (effected my anarchy). Gaige can get a lot of use out of it due to close enough. Highest damaging non-elemental shottie. Up close, can take out mobs without Anarchy in 1~2 shots. Preferred prefix- Rustler’s. Hydra can be obtained as a rare drop from Rouge in Candlerakk’s Crag in DLC3

  • Ideal Parts: Jakobs grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Rustlers
  • Obtaining: Sword in the Stoner quest (DLC4)

###Flakker
:boom:

Each pellet and subsequent explosion receive full Anarchy bonus. Spread becomes extremely tight with Discord. dropped by Warrior, Handsome sorcerer or torgue vendor in DLC2

  • Ideal Parts: Torgue grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Casual
  • Obtaining: Warrior, Handsome Sorcerer (DLC4), Torgue vendor (DLC2)

###Ravager
:boom:

only non unique shotgun here. If you cant get any of the others this is a viable option. High pellet count, bad ammo consumption, solid damage.

  • Ideal Parts: Torgue grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Casual
  • Obtaining: World drop or Tougue Vendor (DLC2)

##Honerable mention

###Pre-stackers
Tediore grip skatter guns green+, Jakobs grip longrider green. other versions exist.

  • Ideal Parts: refer to description
  • Ideal Prefix: Texas
  • Obtaining: World drop


#SMGs
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###Lascaux
:no_entry_sign:

easiest farm in the game. Its just in a pool of water in frostburn canyon. If you ever find yourself without good guns in UVHM go get yourself one of these since in UVHM it will always be your level. Very Very high fire rate and burst count. With high anarchy treat it more like a shotgun or use it with the expectation of relying on close enough. I could be wrong but i believe the Stopping prefix increases damage.

  • Ideal Parts: Dahl grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Stopping
  • Obtaining: Frostburn spawn

###Tattler
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Works great with low Anarchy stacks, and synergizes with any elemental preference. High usage from The Better Half.

  • Ideal Parts: Bandit grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Murduring
  • Obtaining: Hyperius (DLC1)

###Florentine
:zap: and  

Shock and slag, yes please. Perfect if you go down the LBT tree. It initially deals slag damage and electric splash damage. Little synergy with the Anarchy tree. Consummate increases damage while impetuous increases bullet speed.

  • Ideal Parts: Maliwan grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Impetuous
  • Obtaining: DLC4 Seraph vendor

###Slagga

probably the best smg to slag anything ever. Fires 3 shots for the price of one. Its basically a legendary version of the tattler. Deals slightly less damage than the tattler but a higher elemental chance Good for BFF tree if you let deathtrap do most of the damage but you are slagging everything in his path. chance to drop from Tector & Jimbo Hodunk located in The Dust. It also has an increased chance to drop from the Handsome Dragon in Hatred’s Shadow within the Tiny Tina’s Assault on Dragon Keep DLC

  • Ideal Parts: Bandit grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Bulets Go Fasterifed
  • Obtaining: Jimbo & Tector after completion of Clan Wars

##Honerable mention



#Assualt Rifles
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###Bekah
:no_entry_sign:

Works from 0 stacks to 400, which is a great help for any Gaige user. This gun has a multiplicative crit bonus of 15% on top of the base additive 50% inherent to Jakobs, a bullet split that synergizes well with Anarchy, and four total projectiles per shot that directly increase damage. It also has a pseudo-B0re penetration effect that gives it similar properties to the Twister. While ADSing, the gun is extremely accurate and allows crits even at relatively high stacks. As it is an Jakobs assault rifle specifically, it also has a huge ammo to damage ratio that gives it an edge on many of the other Gaige Top Gear assault rifles, that being due to the four given shots per ammo used. Anarchy simply provides extra damage on top of it’s high base damage, and it also has a good deal of synergy with Nth Degree due to the extra projectiles.

  • Ideal Parts: Jakobs grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Boss
  • Obtaining: Tubbies and OMGWTF

###Ogre
:boom:

it does massive damage especially with a Jill of all trades com. It doesn’t work super well with anarchy so you have to keep a pretty close/medium distance from the enemies but it shreds them.

  • Ideal Parts: Dahl stock, Torgue grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Nasty or Wild
  • Obtaining: King of Orcs in the Badass round (DLC4)

###Rapier
:fire: :zap:   :no_entry_sign:

only good if you choose to play a melee Gaige. Only necessary for this one play style as it has low raw damage. Try to get a slag version, it makes everything easier.

  • Ideal Parts: Vladof Grip, Slag
  • Ideal Prefixes: Swift or Rabid
  • Obtaining: Message In A Bottle quest reward (DLC1)

###Seeker
:boom:

Seeking capabilities enhanced with use of Close Enough, without the ricochet. The Seeker can only be obtained from trading with the Seraph Vendor in Flamerock Refuge. DLC4

  • Ideal Parts: Torgue grip
  • Ideal Prefixes: Wild or Plump
  • Obtaining: DLC4 seraph vendor

###Hail
:fire: :zap:

  • Ideal Parts: Vladof Grip
  • Ideal Prefixes: Rabid (avoid Swift)
  • Obtaining: Bandit circle of slaughter round 5

###Kitten
:fire: :zap:

Highly conditional weapon. A moxxi assault rifle that acts more like a shotgun. Fires 3 bullets for the price of one. You really need to be at point blank range to directly hit anything with this gun. Works well with close enough because bullets rarely go within the cross hairs.

  • Ideal Parts: Vladof Grip
  • Ideal Prefixes: Rabid
  • Obtaining: Everybody Wants to be Wanted quest reward (DLC2)

##Honerable mention



#Pistols
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###Rubi/Grog Nozzle
Rubi: :fire: :zap:
Grog:

This is not specifically good for gaige but it is needed for health gating. its twice on this list but for different purposes. up until level 72 the rubi will be sufficient for healing. at op 8 players will notice that they need the grog nozzle to remain in health gating range. An important weapon for any class. Rubi is a Quest reward from Rakkaholics anonymous and Grog nozzle is a quest item from the Beard Makes the Man, do not hand that quest in.

  • Ideal Parts: Maliwan grip
  • Ideal Prefix: refer to description
  • Obtaining:
  • Rubi: Rakkaoholics anonymous quest reward
  • Grog Nozzle: Beard makes the Wizard quest item (DLC4)

###Fibber
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It ricochet’s off into 9 bullets. The damage on the gun card has the highest bullet damage out of the 3 barrels. Since all pellets are unlisted it deals full amp damage for every one of those new bullets. Combined with close enough you can clear entire areas while looking at your feet; with or without the bee shield. Try to get it with a win-win, dynamic or redundant prefix. Win win means more damage. Dynamic means higher fire rate its the better version with the bee. Redundant is better with high anarchy but because it shoots 2 shots you do use ammo faster. This gun is gaige’s version of beehawking but anarchy replaces the bee shield. There is no penalty from close enough with this gun.

  • Ideal Parts: Barrel 3, Hyperion Grip
  • Ideal Prefixes: Win-Win, Dynamic, Redundant
  • Obtaining: A Real Boy: Human quest reward

###Thunderball Fists
:zap:

Synergizes great with the LBT tree. You get 2 electric explosions per shot. Pain in the ass to farm. If the name didn’t give it away its always electric. When a shot hits the ground or an enemy, a small (shock) explosion occurs a few seconds later, dealing roughly double the damage of the shot. It provides a ton of damage, can hit multiple enemies at once, and is generally useful while mobbing. Dropped by Captain Flynt in Southern Shelf

  • Ideal Parts: Maliwan grip
  • Ideal Prefixes: Potent
  • Obtaining: Captian Flynt or Sparky Flynt (HH5)

###Little evie
:zap:

Always shock elemental. Very high elemental chance and shock damage. Also has very high fire rate for a Maliwan pistol. Projectiles fire in a parabolic arc. Killing an enemy increases action skill cooldown rate by 12%. This means more death trap and it always comes in shock which is what you want if you go down LBT. Little Evie is obtained from Lil’ Sis after killing Mr. Bubbles without hurting Lil’ Sis in the process. DLC1.

  • Ideal Parts: Maliwan grip
  • Ideal Prefixes: Potent
  • Obtaining: Little Sister (DLC1)

###DPUH
:boom:

while spread with >200 stacks can be extremely unreliable, all pellets + any splash damage receive full Anarchy bonus. *Spread becomes reliable with Discord. Gotten from Torgue Vendors in DLC3

  • Ideal Parts: Torgue grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Double Penetrating
  • Obtaining: Savage Lee, Torgue Vendor (DLC2)

##Honerable mention



#Sniper Rifles
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Very hard to use with gaige as most sniper rifles rely on accuracy, which we usually do not have. You can accurately snipe with up to about 100 stacks and then the accuracy loss becomes too much for long distances. These snipers are specialty snipers and are not used in a traditional manner. If you choose to use other snipers discord looping makes it possible, though maybe not functional for Gaige.

###Pimpernel
:fire: :zap:

It is effective at op 8 with no stacks, Aim for the navel on human enemies. The “sweet spot” is different on most enemies for gaige. take the time to relearn them for each enemy. It takes a lot of practice but worth it once you get passed the learning curve. Secondary orbs from the pimpernel also get undivided damage bonuses from anarchy. High elemental chance makes it perfect for the LBT tree. This gun works from 0 stacks to 400, and has a sweet spot around 200. This gun has high damage per shot, making it ammo efficient, and keeps high accuracy up to 250 stacks. It has high synergy with Nth degree due to the projectiles per shot, and Anarchy gives it high raw damage stats in return for little accuracy loss.

  • Ideal Parts: Jakobs or Maliwan grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Barking or Banbury
  • Obtaining: Don’t copy that floppy quest reward (DLC1)

###Longbow
:fire:

This can be used as a mid range sniper or assault rifle. Sniper wise with the right parts it is effective up to about 200 stacks. You will see some crazy numbers. Dropped by Creepers in Caustic Caverns

  • Ideal Parts: Hyperion or Jakobs Grip
  • Ideal Prefix: Venture
  • Obtaining: Creepers

##Honerable mention



#Rocket Launchers
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Stupidly high damage with high anarchy stacks, try not to kill yourself.

###Topneaa
:fire: :zap:

The fact that you can spam these “single shot Norfleets”, just make them that much more awesome! Preferred prefix Rugged. Obtained randomly from anywhere

###Hive

You get some insane numbers with enough anarchy. Because its homing its resistant to the negative effects of anarchy. Dropped from Saturn.

###Norfleet
:fire: :zap:

Gaige can probably hit the damage cap with a good norfleet and max anarchy stacks(unproven but you will still deal a massive amount of damage.) Gaige is the best shamfleeter( Sham +norfleet) in the game. (this is just a visual damage cap, the game will only show you dealing a certain amount of damage but u actually can deal more.) Great for getting second winds.

  • Ideal Parts: Maliwan grip, Tediore sight, Torgue exhaust
  • Ideal Prefix: Prudential, Puissant
  • Obtaining: Vermivorous or Hyperius (DLC1)

##Honerable mention



#Grenades
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Gaige does not get grenade or explosive bonuses like a few other characters. Anarchy has no affect on grenade damage so even a powerful grenade such as the bonus package is not extraordinary on Gaige. As a result you will most likely be using grenades for their secondary effect and not for pure damage. Most of these on the list are just great slagging tools and are not specifically good with any tree, but are still very important for gaige.

###Crossfire/Bouncing Bonny
:fire: :zap:   :no_entry_sign:

it is best to get a very low level version because higher leveled ones WILL KILL YOU! These act like normal bouncing Betty grenades except they throw out child grenades as they bounce. Slag versions can effectively slag large areas of enemies. They can also kinda slag bosses because they continuously slag those around them as long as they are active. To best take advantage of these get the slag versions. The Crossfire can only be obtained from trading with the Seraph Vendor in the Badass Crater of Badassitude. Bouncing Bonny is obtained randomly from any suitable loot source, but has an increased chance to drop from Loot Midgets. In order of usefulness for prefixes- Longbow, Lobbed, Homing and 0.0 fuse time.

  • Obtaining:

###Chain lightning
:zap:

Does great damage with a LBT build and is an easy heal with a Moxxie weapon.If you use a gun to slag this is a great grenade to use for most playstyles as with a LBT build it can kill smaller enemies at a pretty efficient range. With other build it strips shields like there was no tomorrow allowing you to hit fleshy enemies with fire. You don’t have to worry about enemy shields and it can easily kill surveyors. The Chain Lightning is a rare drop from Badass Sorcerers DLC4
Game play video Demonstration of awesome shield stripping- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYKaVixJTn8, Synergy with grog nozzle- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGdfPax78bY

  • Obtaining:

###O-negative
:fire: :zap:   :boom:

This is the best transfusion grenade in the game and will easily keep your health in health gating range. I suggest the slag variant as you will not be using this for raw damage, might as well multitask. the O-Negative can only be obtained from trading with the Seraph Vendor in the Badass Crater of Badassitude in True Vault Hunter Mode and Normal or as a drop from Pete the Invincible in Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode.

  • Obtaining:

###Magic missile

Unless you get Interspersed Outburst gaige does not have a way to slag its opponents. For mobbing this is the best possible grenade to have if you want to reliably slag enemies and not worry about running out. Up to level 72 the damage isn’t too bad either. Magic Missile is dropped by the wizards, as well as their badass counterparts. You want the x4 purple variant

  • Obtaining:

###Storm front
:zap:

The only grenade actually used for its damage. Since it is always electric this grenade gets heavily boosted if you go down the LBT tree. chance to drop from Lee, Mike, Dan or Ralph located in Bloodshot Stronghold. It can also be dropped by Flinter. In order of usefulness for prefixes- Longbow, Lobbed, Homing and 0.0 fuse time.

  • Obtaining:

##Honerable mention



#Class Mods
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the first two on this list can only be acquired by killing chubby/tubby enemies.

###Legendary Catalyst
boosts just about every useful skill in the LBT tree. Basically a must have if you want to properly take advantage of the LBT tree.

  • Team Elemental Effect Damage
    +5 Wires Don’t Talk
    +5 Evil Enchantress
    +5 More Pep
    +5 Electrical Burn
    +5 Interspersed Outburst

###Legendary Anarchist
The innate gun bonus works the same way as stacks of anarchy. It is added to any stacks you currently have rather than multiplied. +5 in typecast iconoclast is also amazing for anarchists.

  • Gun Damage
  • Gun Accuracy
    +5 Strength of 5 Gorilla
    +5 Myelin
    +5 Unstoppable Force
    +5 Smaller, Lighter, Faster
    +5 Typecast Iconoclast

###Legendary Mechromancer
easy enough to get from loot midgets. Good general class mod. Useful for a lot of builds

+Cooldown rate %
+5 Cooking Up Trouble
+5 The Better Half
+5 20% Cooler
+5 More Pep
+5 Strength of Five Gorillas
+5 Smaller, Lighter, Faster

###Slayer of Terramorphous
Its important to note this is the only class mod that allows gaige to get 600 stacks of anarchy. However aside from that it is mostly useless.

+burn chance
+burn damage
+max Health
+4 Interspersed Outburst
+4 Evil Enchantress
+4 Made of Sterner Stuff
+4 Fancy Mathematics
+4 Preshrunk Cyberpunk

###Prodigy
the ideal COM for raiding. A purple version gives points into “more pep” which you do not need. For this reason get a blue version

+n% Reload
+n% Accuracy
+6/+5 Cooking up trouble
+5/+6 The Better half

###Necromancer
Link to wiki page >>>here<<< when combined with the Blockade significantly increases damage reduction. The best two versions of this COM are Chaotic Neutral and Chaotic Good.

+Accuracy: % (“Lawful” in the name)
+Critical Damage % (“Evil” in the name)
+Fire Rate % (“Chaotic” in the name)
+Magazine Size 73% (“True Neutral” in the name) or +45% (“Neutral” in the name)
+Reload Speed % (“Good” in the name)
Variants of the Necromancer class mod may grant the following bonuses up to:
+6 Made of Sterner Stuff
+6 Strength of Five Gorillas
+6 Wires Don’t Talk

###Technophile
if you want to get the most out of interspersed outburst this is the class mod to use. Great substitute for the legendary catalyst class mod.

Variants of the Technophile class mod may grant the following bonuses up to:
+Shield Capacity:
+Shield Recharge Rate:
-Accuracy:
+6 Fancy Mathematics
+6 Strength of Five Gorillas
+6 Interspersed Outburst

##Honerable mention



#Shields
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—With all shields you should go for the inflammable or alkaline prefix. This respectively gives fire and corrosive DOT immunity. Gaige probably has one of the best abilities related to a shield. Blood Soaked shields at 5/5 refills 100% of your shield after a kill. Gaige is a shield tanker. Her skills heavily support the idea that she is meant to use her shields to absorb damage. She has 4 skills that help keep your shields up. Fancy Mathematics, Unstoppable force, Blood Soaked Shields and buck up. Other characters can take continuous health damage and stay alive (Salvador for example), but gaige is mostly about shields. A good portion of these shields are up to personal preference. The nature of shields dictate that they synergize with play style and not specifically with any tree. It all depends on what you want your shield to do. All of these except the bee can be used with relative success if you get the skill sharing is caring. The best COLOR=“Lime”]BFF shield in my opinion is the[COLOR=“Orange”] hide of terra due to its massive damage bonus for him. Look at the max shield stats link from the top of the thread for the proper parts and stats for these.

###Sham
because sham. Dropped from the BNK3R

  • Ideal Parts:
  • Obtaining: Bnk3r

###Love Thumper
the trick is to give death trap this shield with sharing is caring. WARNING! HE WILL KILL YOU IF YOU GET TOO CLOSE, Deathtrap will destroy everything in his path including you. Its like watching the finale to a fireworks show because of how often the novas go off.

  • Ideal Parts:
  • Obtaining:

###Hide of Terramorphous
This is the only non gun gear piece in this part of the thread for a reason; it is considered one of the best shields for Gaige. There are countless builds relying on this as its main shield. If you get sharing is caring this is probably the best possible shield you can give deathtrap as he gets the highest roid damage shield in the game, an amazing spike and nova shield all in one. It’s a nova, roid and spike shield all in one what more can you ask for. It’s a pain in the ass to farm but completely worth it. With 5/5 in BSS you frequently get to take advantage of the nova part of this shield. Hold a rubi or grog nozzle and you actually get healed a little bit every time an enemy decides to melee you. (will not stop you from dying as the healing effects of the rubi/grog kick in after you receive damage) This shield also makes melee Gaige possible. Dropped from Terramorphous
Game Play Videos HoT+sharing is caring, Melee Gaige

  • Ideal Parts:
  • Obtaining: Teramorphous

###Blockade
High capacity Blockade is also great for mobbing with BSS. Faster recharge rate variant is great for raiding with minimal adds. Especially coupled with MoSS, can significantly increase damage resistance. Basically, a turtle shield without the health loss. This is one of the more balanced shields in the game. Blockade can only be obtained as a rare drop from the Ancient Dragons of Destruction DLC4.

  • Ideal Parts:
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###Big boom blaster
Shield can be shared with DT, making grenade/RL ammo replenishment easy. Also comes with elemental capacitors, and relatively high cap. The Big Boom Blaster can only be obtained from trading with the Seraph Vendor in the Badass Crater of Badassitude in True Vault Hunter Mode and Normal or as a rare drop from Pete the Invincible in Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode.

  • Ideal Parts:
  • Obtaining:

###Antagonist
High capacity, wonderful bullet deflection, and throws out slag orbs when enemies hit you. What’s not to love. Very well balanced shield. The Antagonist can be obtained from trading with the Seraph Vendor in Flamerock Refuge DLC4.

  • Ideal Parts:
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###The Bee
With BSS this shield will rarely see any down time. Honestly it is unnecessary at high enough anarchy but its worth mentioning. Its usually advised that you use a different shield because reliance on the bee reduces Gaige’s survive ability. she is one of the best characters with the bee because of blood soaked shields to cancel out the Poor recharge and myelin to help with the capacity. Add to this a ricochet fibber and close enough and she is better using the bee than most other characters with the possible exception of a beehawking siren. BSS, UF, Buck Up and Myelin all have highly synergistic properties with it. hance to drop from Hunter Hellquist located in Arid Nexus - Boneyard. As of Tiny Tina’s Assault on Dragon Keep, the Bee has an increased chance to drop from Treants and Pixies in the Forest DLC4. Not to be used with sharing is caring.

  • Ideal Parts:
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###Blackhole
used with Sharing is caring because deathtrap doesn’t have to go to the enemies, enemies go to him. Also with high enough anarchy you cannot hit anything more than 20 feet away. It helps if you can drag everyone to you right before you die. chance to drop from Foreman Jasper located in Opportunity.

  • Ideal Parts:
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###Flame of the firehawk
lose shield -> bunch of novas -> full shield. Not used as much as some of the other shields, but worth mentioning. Due to sharing is caring, up to level 72 this can also be a good shield to give deathtrap as he rarely has time to regenerate his shield. obtained from the mission Cult Following: The Enkindling located in Frostburn Canyon.

  • Ideal Parts:
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##Honerable mention



#Relics
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###Shadow of the Seraphs
“chance to shoot twice” ideal for large mag guns; I.E. Fibber, non-Jakobs shotties, ARs, etc. Perfect for running areas with multiple enemy types. Can significantly increase overall DPS. Proven with DP runs @ OP8. Obtained from Seraph Vendor in DLC4

  • Ideal Stats:
  • Obtaining:

###Bone of the ancients
This comes in all elements but if you go down LBT make sure you get a shock variant. It gives the highest elemental damage bonus out of any relic and it also gives a cooldown bonus. The cooldown bonus is helpful for deathtrap as we have the longest cooldown in the game. If you go down any tree grab this relic. Dropped from Loot midgets

Elements: can boost every element except slag and explosive
Locations: Loot midgets

  • Ideal Stats:
  • Obtaining:

###Sheriff’s badge
works great with the fibber as it boosts pistol fire rate and damage. Rare drop from sheriff of Lynchwood

  • Ideal Stats:
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##Honerable mention

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Where’s the Hail? Also, the Sword should have a Hyperion stock and not a Torgue. Torgue stocks are only useful on Hyperion shotties.

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The hail’s in there…somewhere… It might be in a different section, it was kind of off on it’s own in the original, It should be easier to find in a bit.

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I didn’t see it in the AR section which is why I asked.

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Yeah, turns out it’s not in there, I guess it got splinched at some point, I’ll get it back in there

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I don’t think CE works w/ the Sword’s child grenades or with the Seeker.

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Glad to see there enough interest in a game that’s over 3 years old to keep reworking guides like these and testing new gear.

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Some links that may be helpful:

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Would the triquerta be any good with anarchy, considering it has a fixed spread pattern? Just a suggestion

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I did a quick test, becasue it’s been a while since I’ve use the Triquerta, or pretty much any Jakobs shottie other than the ROM, Twister or coach gun for that matter, and the Triquerta is actually worse, damage wise, than a comperable Bushwack (bandit barrel jakobs shottie), though becasue of the fire pattern, I’m inclined to say it’s better for Gaige. Additionaly, the hydra out damages a Quad, and for only 3 ammo per shot. That said, it’s fire pattern isn’t that great…

To be honest, I have mixed feelings about Jakobe shotties other than the twister being on here in the first place, the fact that they all have major accuracy problems and no real way to deal with the damage penalty from Close Enough, in addition to pretty marginal synergies with her other trees. That said, I’d like to hear some other opinions on this.

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Hey, so I’m done with the formatting, and assigning parts, prefixes, and drop locations for all the guns, I left out most of the other gear becasue I’m tired, I’ll do it later.

First off, the previous version didn’t have HM, so if there’s anything you think should move down there, say so.
Second, if there’s anything that isn’t on here that should be, espically stuff for the Proc/Shock builds that have been buffed recently, say so.
Third, Normal TG stuff: if you don’t think something deserves it’s spot, say so.
Fourth, I haven’t even read any of the item descriptions yet, all of them are leftovers from the previous version, so feel free to comment on them, but most of them are probably going to change in some fasion anyway.
Fifth, if you noticed anything wrong in the drop locations or parts, let me know, I’ll correct it.

Finaly, here are a few changes I’m proposing:

  • Removal of the Hydra; it just dosen’t measure up to the other stuff on the list, in particular, it’s inability to deal with high levels of anarchy and the Close enough damage penalty. Also, there’s already a buttload of shotguns
  • Adding the Slowhand: it’s a great Slag weapon, and with the right setup, a shock one could probably put out some decent DPS
  • Removal of the Florentine; it is a very poor slag weapon, being heavily overshadowed by the likes of the slagga or Pimp, and a very poor damage weapon, being heavily overshadowed by pretty much everything else on this list. There are cases where this weapon is a decent choice, but almost all of them involve Krieg and the ones that don’t I think are too niche for it to earn a place on this list.
  • Moving the Lascaux to HM (at best); it’s an easy farm, but it’s also a pretty mediocre weapon, not sure it certainly does not deserve TG
  • Adding the Sandhawk to TG; conditionaly upon good performace with high anarchy, I think this SMG could be an exelent addition to this list, even discounting Bee use.
  • Moving the Rapier to HM; Melee Gaige is a viable playstyle, but the rapier’s lack of utility for any other kind of build is a pretty big strike against it’s status as TG, in my opinion.
  • Moving the Seeker to HM; it just dosen’t measure up to the other weapons on this list, though this may just be my bias, I’ve never actually used the seeker on gaige.
  • Moving the DPUH to HM; it’s verry poor interaction with mediocre amounts of stacks is pretty lame, espically concidering the power of some of the other weapons of it’s type.
  • moving the little evie to HM: it’s only really useful for it’s red-text, which is difficult to proc concidering the mediocre damage output of the weapon.
  • Adding the Sloth to the Snipers; the sloth is a great sniper, espicaly for proc/shock builds, i’d be fine with HM
  • Adding the Badaboom and/or creamer the launchers; I’m not really much of a launcher guy, but they’re some of the usual suspects, so…
  • Mentioning Purple Betties; this is less of a propasition, and more of a note-to-self
  • adding the Lightning Bolt; the lighting bolt has the highest DoT in the entire game, and it’s shock, should be pretty self explanitory
  • mentioning other transfusions; same as the purple betties
  • adding the Quasar; becasue quasar
  • No suggestions for COMs yet, but this section probably does need to change
  • Removal of the Love thumper; the HoT is just better, becasue it won’t kill you
  • Adding the WTF; concidering the weakness of the DoT, I’m not sure it deserves a spot, but I think it deserves concideration at least
  • moving shadow of the seraphs to HM; most of the guns on this list either have >10FR or are not the kind of weapons you want it procing on, i think it’s kind of a niche relic
  • adding Skin of ancients; I think you could make an interesting (OC-less) build with the right skin.

DPUH spread when Discord kicks in is really tight. The pistol that needs to be moved to HM is the Little Evie.
The Hydra is the Jakobs shottie with the Highgest damage output and being Jakobs its stacks Anarchy fast. It is a good gun to start a game and a good choice for Anarchy builds that dont want to mess with LBT. It needs to be in the list, can be HM but needs to be in.
Also, there are two guns that need to be tested: Pitchfork and Emperor.
The others are ok to move to HM.
And iirc the Sandhakw gets all over the place with Anarchy and it doesnt need to be in the list only for the Bee because we got the Fibber.

Dunno about the Slowhand, though. It is good with the transformer to prevent self harm when in the face. Could be good.

Edit: also, I think we could agree to remove the Omen and the Butcher. Their spread break at high stacks, unlike the others they are merged with. There is a vídeo from Poka showing how some shotties act with Anarchy, Im going to see if I can find it.

Regarding the Tattler:

It synergises with CE, Nth Degree and TBH really well. And due to this, Anarchy stacks dont need to be kept in mind (not untill going over 200 anyway).

Veruc needs more love aswell.
/totallynobiastowardsDahl

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The Storm.

In regards to whether or not it should be TG or HM I couldn’t really say, as I am primarily not a Gaige player. In fact she is my least played out of the 12. But this is her best shock DoT weapon in the entire game par none. It even beat out the Chain Lightning in my test. And with the WDT buff it should be even better.

If you need a video I won’t be home until much later today, but I could do a Pete’s Bar run w/ 400 stacks if that is fine.

Pointers if you are going to try it out your self.

  • Play w/ or unto and through 400 stacks as the Storm’s orb DoT damage is boosted by gun damage.
  • Don’t spec into CE as that will half your DoT damage, and the orbs are teslas so they find enemies fine on their own.
  • In my test the Leg. Catalyst preformed much better than the SoT.

I’m not much of a gaige player but for the hail isn’t it normally advised not to use the rabid and swift prefix?

I think the SoT is a hold-over from before the introduction of the new legendaries. Leg. Catalyst is top gear for anyone using Gaige’s middle tree.

I need to switch my Storm over to my Gaige (who just hit level 72). Be interesting to compare how it works on her versus Maya, what with all the electrical buffs Gaige has had recently. It’s biggest downside is that the damage is split between the orbs (that is, they don’t function as unlisted pellets). However, the recent buffs might actually make that moot, at least for Gaige. Situationally, it’s really good against Jackenstein, and synergises very nicely with a Quasar (or any other singularity grenade for that matter.)

Now that I noted the Storm is missing. It’s her best DoT source when Anarchy is stacked iirc. Can spread EB like crazy and is even better when Nth Degree procs.

Also, where are the Hornet/Teapot? The Hornet benefits more from Anarchy and the Teapot has a higher than normal DoT value, good for Catalyst builds. And their burst is very accurate even with some Anarchy stacked.

IMO the Rabid is the #1 preferred prefix, especially for characters like Gaige.

@VaultHunter101 I just meant to say 600 stacks didn’t beat the Catalyst at 400 stacks. And remember, at least in this set up Gaige only cares about the DoT, the actual gun itself won’t do that much damage. The splash being split up is the only reason its good in this scenario.

My bad I was thinking of swift only not swift and rabid