[Guide] Top Gear for Jack

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Thanks To:

@Ha_Na and @Hoyle4 for their tremendous work formatting this
@Chuck80 for sending me the code.
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##Table of Contents

  1. Weapons
    1.1 Pistols
    1.2 Shotguns
    1.3. Lasers
    1.4. Sniper Rifles
    1.5. Assault RIfles
    1.6. SMGs
    1.7. Rocket Launchers
  2. Items
    2.1 Grenade Mods
    2.2 Shields
    2.3 Class Mods
    2.4 Oz Kits
  3. Additional Resources

Weapons

  • All Hyperion items count towards Company Man. Hyperion weapon damage is also boosted by the Projection class mod, which also boosts Company Man.
  • Sponsored By can add a variety of bonuses to all weapons. I will suggest a couple of bonuses, but the absolute best depends on your build.
  • For an extensive look at it, check the Sponsored By Guide.
  • Note that Fire Rate cannot be infinitely raised. It is limited by the in-game code, as well as frame rate limitations.
  • Tediore reload damage is boosted by grenade damage. Except for rocket launchers.
  • You can add any element to any weapon, by investing a point in Sponsored By.
  • Slow reloads can be negated completely by investing in Marginal Benefit.
  • Wide spread can be negated with Celestial Doppelganger. It grants reverse recoil to all weapons.
  • Heavy ammo consumption (be it per shot, or due to high fire rate) can be negated by Absolute Advantage. It is boosted by CEO and Projection class mods.
  • Glitch weapons:
  • Community Guide to Glitch Effects
  • Reloading has a chance to add one of four glitch effects. Consult the guide if you are not familiar with the glitch rarity.
  • Removing your weapon from your hands (reloading, climbing ladders, swapping, going in the inventory etc) removes the glitch.
  • Glitch weapons have 50% more magazine capacity compared to their purple counterparts.
  • Just Compensation and Sponsored By can increase their magazine, to extend the use of the glitch.
  • Marginal Benefit can restore 100% of the magazine, bypassing the reload.
  • Melee to interrupt the Loop glitch and save the bullets.

As you can see above, Jack can manage all disadvantages of weapons. Recoil, ammo consumption, reload, you name it. Because of this, any half-decent weapon can be used with satisfying results. This makes it challenging to separate the great gear from the top gear. If something that you find very effective is seemingly missing, it may be because other items in its category are simply even better. Suggestions are warmly accepted, though.


Entries are not in order of preference. The best item in each category depends on your build. The best element depends on your enemy. Choose wisely.



#Pistols
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##Luck Cannon
:no_entry_sign:

Very high projectile damage and accuracy. It has a chance to deal additional explosive damage that depends on your distance to the enemy. The farther away, the higher the chance. Its magazine is reduced to a single bullet, but Absolute Advantage takes care of that. If you are not investing in AA, go with the Maggie.

  • Alternative:
  • Maggie/Pepperbox
  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs Grip
  • Double prefix (Two Fer) / Damage prefix (Dastardly)
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Dahl
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from Badass Glitches/Grinder/World Drop

##Anarchist
:snowflake:  :zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire: :no_entry_sign:

With an impressive fire rate, and good stats overall, Anarchists suit Jack well. Absolute Advantage and Just Compensation, paired with the Loop glitch effect, will make its magazine bottomless, allowing you to fill the area with bullets. Recoil issues can be handled with Sponsored By, or the Celestial Doppelganger class mod.

  • Alternative:
  • Anarchist with shield bypass luneshine
  • Proletarian Revolution
  • Best Parts:
  • Vladof Grip
  • Double prefix (Dva) / Fire rate prefix (Vengeful)
  • Error Code O0L4M0A4 or O0L4M4A0
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Scav/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest

##T4S-R
:snowflake:  :zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire:

Fires lasers. High Fire Rate and Accuracy. Highest Elemental Effect Chance among all Pistols, which, combined with its other attributes, makes it a good option for freezing enemies.
Being a Hyperion item, it also counts towards Company Man.

  • Best Parts:
  • Torgue Grip
  • Double prefix (Redundant)
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Scav/Vladof/Torgue (for cryo variant)
  • Obtaining:
  • Holodome (Guaranteed in Round 1)/Drops from badass enemies in the badass round.

##Maggie
:no_entry_sign:

A Jakobs Pistol that fires 6 pellets per shot for just 1 Ammo. Its spread is very manageable, but can be further tightened with Company Man, or the Celestial Doppelganger. Because it has a much higher default magazine than the Luck Cannon, you can get many more shots with Absolute Advantage before having to reload.

  • Alternative:
  • Luck Cannon
  • Pepperbox
  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs Grip
  • Damage prefix (Dastardly)
  • Punisher (Critical) or Piercing Rounds (Shield Bypass) Luneshine
  • Sponsored By:
  • Dahl/Jakobs/Hyperion
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Shooterang
:no_entry_sign: :snowflake:  :zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire:

Although possessing a unique reload, this is best used in traditional fashion, aka shooting it. The high base damage, paired with good stats and some fire rate boosts, make this quite powerful. Will also do not need AA to make this work.

  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs / Tediore Grip
  • Double prefix (Two for one) or Damage prefix (Super)
  • Punisher (Critical) or Piercing Rounds (Shield Bypass) Luneshine
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Jakobs/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Repeater
:no_entry_sign: :snowflake:  :zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire:

A Dahl pistol with a Dahl barrel. While it would not seem like much, this is truly phenomenal. The overload glitch does not affect the fire rate, and thanks to Marginal Benefit, Absolute Advantage, and Just Compensation, we can have a huge mag and restore it to full without actually reloading. Not the best option if you have to swap weapons often, but a great gun nonetheless. Also no big deal if you do not have Absolute Advantage.

  • Best Parts:
  • Dahl Grip
  • Double prefix (Twin) or Damage prefix (Neutralizing)
  • Error Code O4L4M0A0
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Scav/Torgue/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest


#Shotguns
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  • Shotgun parts guide
  • The Hyperion stock is the best, except for Hyperion Shotguns, where Torgue is just as good.

##Flayer
:no_entry_sign:

Having a larger magazine than its purple equivalents, or any Jakobs shotgun for that matter, the Flayer also has two additional projectiles, making it very powerful. Its decent accuracy can be tightened with Celestial Doppelganger, Sponsored By, or Company Man, which will make most, if not all, pellets hit a critical spot, dealing impressive damage. The Quad can still outdamage the Flayer, but only if you use Absolute Advantage to negate the Quad’s low mag and high ammo consumption.

  • Alternative:
  • Quad
  • Quad
  • Coachgun
  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs Grip
  • Critical prefix (Doc’s)
  • Sponsored By:
  • Hyperion/Jakobs/Dahl
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from Viruses
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Quad
:no_entry_sign:

Jakobs shotguns suffer from a low magazine, and increased ammo consumption, but Absolute Advantage negates those completely. The Quad can have glitch effects, and with Absolute Advantage will outdamage the Flayer.

  • Alternative:
  • Quad
  • Coachgun
  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs Grip
  • Critical prefix (Doc’s)
  • Quad:Error Code O4L4M0A0 or O4L0M0A4
  • Sponsored By:
  • Hyperion/Jakobs/Dahl
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop
  • Builds:
  • @Derch 's Deputy Jack: They call me Trinity

##Development
:snowflake: :zap::eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire: :no_entry_sign:

Hyperion shotguns with the Torgue barrel. Essentially elemental quads, with normal critical and reverse recoil. Typically used by Athena, these monsters can be very effective thanks to their good stats and increase projectile count, but come with increased ammo consumption. Thankfully, Absolute Advantage is here to save the day. Much like quads, get these with the Loop glitch, get AA going, and you’ll be sending a ton of pellets down the road. Just Compensation and Sponsored By can increase their magazine size to extend the use of the glitch, and Marginal Benefit can restore the mag to 100% bypassing the reload, and therefore maintaining the glitch for further use. Melee to interrupt the Loop glitch. Company Man, Sponsored By, Celestial Doppelganger, and Precision Strike can massively improve their accuracy, making them very effective in combat, as long as Absolute Advantage is active. If not, switch to a Thinking/Bullpup.

  • Alternative:
  • Thinking
  • Development
  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs / Hyperion Grip
  • Critical prefix (Critical)
  • Error Code O0L4M0A4
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Scav/Hyperion/Vladof
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest

##Flakker
:boom:

Increased Damage. Consumes 4 Ammo per shot. Projectiles split into several “flak” explosions that occupy a fixed area. Does extremely well against large targets, such as Felicity or Iwajira. Even though it does not benefit from grenade damage bonuses, and cannot crit, it is still one of the highest damaging weapons in the game, and its low mag and high ammo consumption can be mitigated with AA, and Just Compensation, and Marginal Benefit can take care of the slow reload speed. Requires optimal distance to be effective.

  • Alternative:
  • Ravager/Ravager
  • Torguemada
  • Best Parts:
  • Torgue Grip
  • Pellet count prefix (Casual)
  • Piercing Rounds (Shield Bypass) Luneshine
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Scav/Vladof
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from Even-More-Disgusting-Tork in Stanton’s Liver
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Thinking
:snowflake: :zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire: :no_entry_sign:

Glitch Hyperion shotguns with the Hyperion barrel. Although ammo efficiency is not a big concern, these do consume one bullet per shot, and have decent stats. The pellet count is low, compared to Hyperion shotguns with other manufacturer barrels, but these can still be effective, and Absolute Advantage will not be active forever. If you get a glitch effect on, these outdamage the Bullpup.

  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs / Hyperion Grip
  • Pellet count prefix (Enforceable)
  • Error Code O0L4M0A4
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Jakobs/Scav/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest

##Moonface
:no_entry_sign:
:boom: splash damage

Fires in a smiley pattern, with +50% explosive splash damage. The spread can be tightened with accuracy boosts, and the magazine can be fixed with Absolute Advantage.

  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs Grip
  • Pellet count prefix (Rustler’s) or Critical prefix (Doc’s)
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Reward for sidequest “Red, then dead”, in Lunar Launching Station.


#Lasers
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  • Laser parts guide
  • Note that the two items that grant additional laser damage, Eddie and Bulwark, are manufactured by Hyperion.
  • For Hyperion lasers, the Hyperion stock is the best, because it increases their critical damage by 10%.
  • The Dahl stock is the best for all other lasers, with Hyperion stock being the second best.

##Laser Disker
:boom:

Although unable to crit, this is one of the most damaging weapon in the game, and a great choice for attaining a Second Wind. Reload damage is boosted by Best Man and Just Compensation, which will also increase its magazine. Sponsored By with Scav will also increase the magazine, allowing you to one shot badasses and some bosses. Reloads come with a tesla effect, just for icing on the cake. The projectile itself deals respectable damage, and deals double damage on airborne targets. You can also add cryo to it to be able to freeze and reload without swapping. Or just spec into High Frequency Trading, for higher swap speed. Jack also has many fire rate buffs to compensate for the default low fire rate.

  • Best Parts:
  • Tediore Grip
  • Sponsored By:
  • Scav for reloads/Vladof/Jakobs/Maliwan (cryo) for shooting
  • Obtaining:
  • Shadowtrap, in the Cortex. Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest

##Absolute Zero
:snowflake:

Maliwan Cryo beam laser with a very high elemental effect chance coupled with a 218% Continuous Damage Bonus coming off a base damage that is almost double that of the Thorny Ol’ Rosie. Has a Magazine Size of only 12, but AA, and Just Compensation can fix that. On top of that, the Recoil is much more manageable compared to any other Maliwan Beam Laser, making this a great choice for hip firing. It suffers from the decreased beam range, so it might not be the best choice for freezing enemies at a distance. Go with an Excalibastard or Cryo Mining Laser for freezing at longer ranges.

  • Alternative:
  • Excalibastard
  • Thornie Ol’ Rosie
  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan Grip
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Torgue/Jakobs/Scav/Dahl
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from EOS in Deck 13.5. Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest

##Longest Yard
:snowflake:  :eight_spoked_asterisk: :zap: :fire: 

Hyperion item. The most powerful railgun in the game, with extra critical damage, and perfect accuracy. Makes for an excellent alternative to Hyperion sniper rifles, since we do not have many of those. It is also a Hyperion laser, and the two items that provide laser damage are also Hyperion. Throw in a Projection class mod, and you have a pin-point accurate crit monster.

  • Alternative:
  • Excalibastard for cryo
  • Mining Laser
  • Best Parts:
  • Hyperion / Maliwan Grip
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Jakobs/Scav/Torgue
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops fro Teh Earworm, in Cluster 99002 0V3RL00K. Grinder/World drop.

##Mining Laser
:snowflake: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :zap: :fire: 

Hyperion item. Very high damage, critical hit damage, and elemental effect chance. Fires three target-penetrating projectiles in a tight triangular pattern at the cost of 7 Ammo per shot. Also an amazing freeze tool when in Cryo. AA can negate the increased ammo consumption, and Company Man can tighten the spread. Can replace Fridgia/Absolute Zero for freezing at medium-long range. Maybe even the Excalibastard, if your target is too hard to crit.

  • Alternative:
  • Excalibastard for cryo
  • Longest Yard
  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan / Hyperion Grip
  • Blade accessory is the only possible one.
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Vladof/Scav
  • Obtaining:
  • Mission Reward from “Infinite Loop”, when turned in to DAN-TRP

##Splitters
:snowflake:  :eight_spoked_asterisk: :zap: :fire: 

Splitters use the Tediore barrel and are essentially laser shotguns, firing three beams at once. Maliwan splitters come with continuous damage bonus and are fairly accurate, Hyperion with +50% critical damage (another 10% with the Hyperion stock), and gain accuracy the longer they are fired. Tediore splitters will fire six projectiles, and will also explode when thrown, creating a tesla effect. Marginal Benefit can restore the mag to 100% while maintaining the glitch effect. All splitters are equally good, it ultimately depends on whether you are using the Projection class mod for Hyperion weapons and Company Man.

  • Alternative:
  • Splitters
  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan grip for all/ Hyperion Grip for Hyperion/ Tediore grip for Tediore
  • Error Code O0L4M0A4
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Jakobs/Scav/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest

##Thorny Ol’ Rosie
:zap: :snowflake:  :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire: 

Very high Continuous Damage Bonus. Suffers from insane Recoil and low base Damage. Celestial Doppelganger can negate the insane recoil, and there are many damage buffs to secure its place in the Top Gear.

  • Alternative:
  • Absolute Zero for cryo
  • Best Parts:
  • Fixed Parts
  • Sponsored By:
  • Dahl/Vladof/Jakobs/Scav
  • Obtaining:
  • Mission Reward from “The Beginning of the End” in TVHM or UVHM


#Sniper Rifles
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##Droog
:snowflake: :zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire: :no_entry_sign:

Vladof sniper rifles with the Vladof barrel. They have the highest magazine sizes and fire rates among sniper rifles. AA will help keep the ammo consumption in check, and Celestial Doppelganger can grant reverse recoil.

  • Alternative:
  • Droog
  • Best Parts:
  • Fire rate prefix (Skorry) / Damage prefix (Gromky) / Critical prefix (Razrez)
  • Error Code O0L4M0A4
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Dahl/Scav
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop/Glitch Chest

##Pitchfork
:zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :no_entry_sign: :snowflake:  :fire: 

Fires 5 horizontal shots in a line, shaped in a “V” pattern. Consumes 2 Ammo per shot. This weapon performs amazingly against bosses, hitting several bullets on their generally larger Critical Hit Spots with each trigger pull. AA will also negate its heavy ammo consumption.

  • Best Parts:
  • Dahl Grip
  • Damage prefix (Pacifying) / Critical prefix (Night)
  • Punisher (Critical) or Piercing Rounds (Shield Bypass) Luneshine
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Scav/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Snider
:snowflake: :zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire:

Maliwan Sniper Rifles using a Maliwan or Dahl barrel, the former is preferred for its immensely higher Elemental Effect Chance and Damage.

  • Alternative:
  • Snider
  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan barrel
  • Jakobs / Maliwan Grip
  • Damage prefix (Barking) / Critical prefix (Gentleman’s)
  • Error Code O0L4M0A4
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Jakobs/Scav/Maliwan
  • Obtaining: Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest

##Skullmasher
:no_entry_sign:

Fires a group of six Reduced-Damage pellets at the cost of one Ammo. Its low accuracy can be massively increased with Company Man, Believe, and Sponsored By.

  • Alternative:
  • Muckamuck
  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs Grip
  • Damage prefix (Skookum) - Critical prefix (Tumtum)
  • Piercing Rounds (Shield Bypass) or Punisher (Critical) Luneshine
  • Sponsored By:
  • Hyperion/Vladof/Jakobs/Scav
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from Nel in Regolith Range
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Muckamuck
:no_entry_sign:

Jakobs sniper rifle with the Jakobs barrel. Apart from spawning with no element, this has few, if any downsides. Its damage is very high, it is very accurate, has a high magazine size and fire rate, and it even comes with multiplicative critical damage. Its reload speed is not that terrible either. The Overload glitch on this makes it extremely effective. And there are no major drawbacks like on other sniper rifles (increased ammo consumption, low accuracy, low mag) to worry about. No gimmicks. No quirks. Aim, shoot, kill. Few enemies can take an overloaded critical shot and live.
With this, a Rerouter, the Entrepreneur class mod, 3DD1.E (and possibly Hero Pose), the Overload glitch, and Marginal Benefit to bypass reloads, you can become a one-shot one-kill sniper, with unlimited Overload duration, and amp damage on every shot. Truly the best pure sniper rifle in the game.

  • Alternative:
  • Skullmasher
  • Muckamuck
  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs Grip
  • Damage prefix (Skookum) / Critical accessory (Tumtum)
  • Error Code O4L4M0A0
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Jakobs/Scav/Maliwan/Dahl
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest

##The Machine
:zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :no_entry_sign: :snowflake:  :fire: 

Increased magazine size and fire rate. Sustained fire increases damage and fire rate. This will decimate even the toughest enemies. Its weakness of chewing through your ammo is countered by Absolute Advantage. It is suggested that you pair this with class mods that increase AA as much as possible.
Just Compensation and Sponsored By can increase magazine size to take advantage of its continuous damage bonus. Sponsored By can also provide some recoil reduction, to help minimize missed hits that could interrupt the continuous damage bonus.
It is not farmable, which makes it difficult to obtain variants of multiple elements and good parts. Still, it performs very well and is definitely Top Gear material. Get one while you can.

  • Best Parts:

  • Vladof Grip

  • Damage/Critical/Magazine size accessory. No prefixes will show. Consult the weapon parts guide.

  • Sponsored By:

  • Scav/Vladof/Jakobs/Maliwan

  • Obtaining:

  • Trade forums

  • Shift codes (big thanks to Will_Couper!)

  • PC/Mac/Linux: W5KBJ-H9FX3-TBTJ3-T3J3T-RRCTS

  • Xbox One/Xbox 360: CKWJT-HZK39-CKXJX-CR3JB-3WSZB

  • PS3 and 4: KC5JB-JT6RW-96B5J-SBWBT-CCJ9F



#Assault Rifles
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##Minigun
:snowflake: :zap: :no_entry_sign: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire: 

Dahl assault rifles with the Vladof minigun barrel. With all-around good stats, and burst fire while aiming down sights, these can fire a lot of rounds very quickly. Note that the Multishot and Overload glitches do not affect the fire rate on these, allowing for massive DPS. Just Compensation and Sponsored By can increase the magazine, and Marginal Benefit can bypass the reload and restore the mag to full, to take advantage of the glitch effect you have.

  • Alternative:
  • Minigun
  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs / Dahl Grip
  • Damage prefix (Attack) / Mag size (Onslaught)
  • Error Code O4L4M4A4
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Scav/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest

##Major Tom
:snowflake: :zap: :no_entry_sign: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire: 

Each shot fires three projectiles in a horizontal pattern at the cost of two Ammo. When ADS, it fires a burst of five projectiles in an horizontal line. Sponsored By can add elements to it, to take advantage of its high pellet count burst.

  • Alternative:
  • Minigun
  • Minigun
  • Best Parts:
  • Dahl Grip
  • Damage prefix (Attack) / Mag size prefix (Onslaught)
  • Piercing Rounds (Shield Bypass) or Punisher (Critical) Luneshine
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Scav/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Shredifier
:snowflake: :zap: :no_entry_sign: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire: 

Highly increased spin-up speed, and magazine size. Celestial Doppelganger can grant reverse recoil.

  • Alternative:
  • Spinigun
  • Spinigun
  • Best Parts:
  • Vladof Grip
  • Damage prefix (Ferocious)
  • Piercing Rounds (Shield Bypass) or Punisher (Critical) Luneshine
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Dahl/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Gatling Gun
:no_entry_sign:

Jakobs AR with the Vladof “spinigun” barrel. Fires 3 bullets at the cost of 3 Ammo per shot. High Damage coupled with a nice Type B Critical bonus make it a well rounded AR. It is much more powerful than the HummerBuster II, and its low magazine-high ammo consumption can be negated by AA, while its recoil can be fixed with Celestial Doppelganger, or Sponsored By.

  • Alternative:
  • Hammerbuster II
  • Gatling Gun
  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs Grip
  • Damage prefix (Boss)
  • Error Code O4L4M0A0
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Dahl/Hyperion/Scav
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest

##Hail
:snowflake: :zap: :no_entry_sign: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire: 

Good stats, with a high fire rate, 150% critical hit bonus, 80% splash damage, and 2.5% lifesteal make the Hail an attractive rifle. Its projectiles travel in an arc and split in two, so you do have to practice with it a bit, but it is very effective and worth the effort.

  • Best Parts:
  • Vladof Grip
  • Damage prefix (Ferocious)
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Scav/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Iwajira, in Serenity’s Waste

##Torgue Rifle
:boom:

Torgue rifles with the standard Vladof barrel. These do not require spin-up time like the ones with the rotating barrel. They have +90% splash damage, which is also nice. Thanks to the explosive multiplier on frozen enemies, this performs best in conjunction with a freeze gun. Or just a cryo sponsorship of Maliwan. As with all glitch rarity weapons, Marginal Benefit can restore the magazine bypassing the roload, retaining the glitch effect.

  • Best Parts:
  • Jakobs / Torgue Grip
  • Bullet speed prefix (Slippery) / Fire rate (Wild)
  • Error Code O0L4M0A4
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Vladof/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop/Glitch chest


##SMGs
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  • SMG parts guide
  • The Dahl stock is the best, with Hyperion being the second best.

##Fridgia
:snowflake:

Always Cryo. Very high Elemental Effect Chance. No Recoil, extremely high Burst Fire Count. Fires 2 bullets at the cost of 1 Ammo in a fixed pattern of the Lascaux cave paintings. Great as a freeze tool, for crowd control and setting up Crits. Company Man can tighten the spread. It might not be the best choice for freezing at a distance though. Go with an Excalibastard or Cryo Mining Laser for longer ranges.

  • Alternative:
  • Fatale
  • Best Parts:
  • Dahl Grip
  • Bullet speed prefix (Flying)
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Jakobs/Torgue
  • Obtaining:
  • Mission Reward from “In Perfect Hibernation” in Veins of Helios

##Meat Grinder
:zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :snowflake:  :fire: 

Wow. Athough seemingly underwhelming, some key skills make its disadvantages redundant. Double ammo consumption, slow reload, low accuracy, these do not matter for Jack. Three projectiles and improved accuracy make this phenomenal. Increase the fire rate with a couple skills, and you’re looking at a bullet hose that is not limited to short range.

  • Best Parts:
  • Scav Grip
  • Bullet speed prefix (Kwikner) / Damage prefix (True-Blue)
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Hyperion/Dahl/Torgue
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from Meat Head, in Triton Flats.

##Fast Talker
:no_entry_sign: :zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :snowflake:  :fire: 

An excellent SMG with massive fire rate, and surprisingly good stats for a Scav weapon. This thing surpasses the Torrent for DPS, and can come with a scope. It also has very low recoil, and it will become pin-point accurate with Company Man, or Sponsored By.

  • Alternative:
  • Torrent
  • Best Parts:
  • Scav Grip
  • Damage prefix (True-Blue)
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Maliwan
  • Obtaining:
  • Tales from the Borderlands Season Pass

##Torrent
:no_entry_sign: :zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :snowflake:  :fire: 

Increased Damage, Magazine Size, Fire Rate, and Burst Count. Extremely low Recoil when hip-fired. No Movement Speed penalty while aiming down the sights. Also has VERY fast Fire Rate when using Burst Fire. Sponsored By can add another element to it, to take advantage of its high fire rate. Company Man can improve the accuracy, to take advantage of its non-existent recoil.

  • Alternative:
  • Fast Talker
  • Best Parts:
  • Dahl Grip
  • Bullet speed prefix (Flying) / Damage prefix (Stopping)
  • Punisher (Critical) or Piercing Rounds (Shield Bypass) Luneshine
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Maliwan/Scav
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from Meg in Hyperion Hub of Heroism
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Cheat Code (/ Fatale)
:no_entry_sign: :zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :snowflake:  :fire: 
( :snowflake: for Fatale)

Hyperion items. High accuracy and increased critical damage (75% type A). The Cheat Code features reduced ammo consumption while in FFYL. AA and Just Compensation can improve its small magazine size. The Fatale is basically the same weapon, available in cryo only, without the FFYL effect, but with a large magazine.

  • Best Parts:
  • Scav or Maliwan Grip
  • Bullet Speed (Promotional/Proactive) or Damage prefix (All-In/Rightsizing)
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Jakobs/Scav
  • Obtaining:
  • Cheat Code: Mission Reward from “System Shutdown”
  • Fatale: Drops from Drongo Bones/Grinder/World drop

##IVF
:zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk:
:no_entry_sign: (= :boom: reloads)

Upon reloading, the weapon is thrown, it explodes, and released two smaller copies of itself which deal 80% of the base damage. Although perfectly viable as a typical SMG, this is used for reload throws. Best Man increases grenade damage, Just Compensation increases its reload damage and magazine, and Sponsored By can increase the mag even further, to the point of one-shotting any non-badass enemy, and some badasses as well. Take care where you throw the thing, because its child SMGs can kill you if they explode near you.

  • Best Parts:
  • Scav / Tediore Grip
  • Reload speed prefix (Refill) / Damage prefix (Hefty)
  • Boominator (Grenade Damage) Luneshine
  • Sponsored By:
  • Scav for reloads/Vladof-Jakobs for shooting
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from the Bosun in Pity’s Fall
  • Grinder/World Drop


#Rocket Launchers
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##Kaneda’s Laser
:boom:

The only launcher able to crit, with impressive stats to match, Kaneda’s Laser is capable of very high damage output. Its magazine size is increased, so do not reload this prematurely, or you will run out of ammo very quickly. It only comes in explosive, so a critical hit on a frozen enemy will be devastating. It is also very accurate, allowing for long range hits. Use the Excalibastard or Mining Laser to freeze at long range.

  • Best Parts:
  • Torgue Grip
  • Torgue exhaust
  • No prefixes show up in the item card. Search for the Damage accessory (consult the parts guide).
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Jakobs
  • Obtaining:
  • EOS in Deck 13.5
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Badaboom
:zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :snowflake:  :fire:  :boom:

Increased projectile count (6) and high magazine. Comes in all elements, has high damage and its spread is not terrible either. Marginal Benefits can negate the slow reload.

  • Best Parts:
  • Scav Grip
  • Torgue or Maliwan Exhaust
  • Maliwan or Tediore Sight
  • Reload Speed prefix (Clever) / Weapon Swap Speed prefix (Kwik-Change) / Damage prefix (Heap’d)
  • Piercing Rounds (Shield Bypass) Luneshine
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Jakobs/Scav
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Nukem
:boom:

Shoots a rocket that goes in a short arc. Massive damage. Great for second winds or just killing groups of enemies. Absolute Advantage has a lower chance for a free shot for launchers, but it still helps. Just Compensation and Sponsored By can increase the magazine, and Marginal Benefits can negate the abysmal reload speed.

  • Best Parts:
  • Torgue Grip
  • Torgue Exhaust
  • Maliwan or Tediore Sight
  • Weapon Swap Speed prefix (Fwap a) / Damage prefix (derp)
  • Piercing Rounds (Shield Bypass) Luneshine
  • Sponsored By:
  • Jakobs/Scav
  • Obtaining:
  • Flameknuckle in the Holodome.
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Duurp
:boom:

Torgue launchers with the Torgue barrel. These are some of the highest damaging weapons in the game. Even more so with the overload or the loop glitch. Which can last longer with Marginal Benefits.

  • Best Parts:
  • Torgue Grip
  • Torgue or Maliwan Exhaust
  • Maliwan or Tediore Sight
  • Damage prefix (derp) / Fire rate prefix (dum pa)
  • Error Code O4L4M0A0
  • Sponsored By:
  • Vladof/Jakobs/Scav
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop


#Grenade Mods
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  • Assume the preferred Fuse Time for all Grenades to be 0.0s, and the preferred Delivery method to be Longbow.
  • If you are using On My Mark, go with Lobbed instead.
  • Tediore reload damage is also considered grenade damage.
  • Grenade damage is boosted by Best Man class mod.
  • Grenade damage is boosted by Just Compensation (more damage for every grenade missing from ammo pool). It is found on Best Man, Eridian Vanquisher, and Celestial Doppelganger.
  • Jack’s Cache grants a free grenade for four kills. Grenade mods able to kill multiple enemies with a single grenade have great synergy with this.
  • On My Mark gives Digi-Jacks a copy of your grenade mod. Press “action skill” to have them throw. Once per action skill activation. Does not work quite as good with longbow grenades.

##Bonus Package
:boom:

After the Grenade’s initial explosion, it releases several child Grenades, that release even more child Grenades.

  • Obtaining:
  • Tork dreggers
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Fire Bee
:fire:

Always Fire. It generates a fire sprinkler, which also spawns homing incendiary spikes. It has a long duration and can decimate flesh targets.

  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Stormfront
:zap:

Always Shock. Creates a tesla, which spawns four child teslas, like a MIRV grenade. Long duration, covers a huge area, and can both strip shields and kill.

  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Quasar
:zap:

  • Hyperion item.
  • Has the largest singularity pull radius in the game. You can pull enemies into gaps or throw them out off the map.
  • It also creates a tesla, which can strip shields, and is the only sticky tesla in the game. It can kill enemies that are glitched in a wall, or under the floor.
  • It can also destroy all of Janey’s security cameras at once.
  • Obtaining:
  • Felicity Rampant
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Nasty Surprise
:zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :snowflake:  :fire:  :boom:

Hyperion item. Functions kinda like a longbow MIRV, dropping child grenades on top of enemies (up to four), or all on one enemy if there are no others around. Decent damage, counts towards Company Man. It can be used as a freeze tool, if you do not want to use a weapon, and want to use a Hyperion grenade mod, since the Quasar comes only in shock.

  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Data Scrubber
:zap:

The Data Scrubber is basically a Transfusion grenade, but instead of Health, it restores Shields. It also regenerates Grenades over time. Nice choice if you do not want to invest into Winning. The grenade regeneration is useful, and can be used in conjunction with a Bomber Oz Kit, and Jack’s Cache, for grenade-focused builds.

  • Obtaining:
  • Mission Reward from “Chip’s Data Mining Adventure”, when turned in to Chip


#Shields
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  • Shield Parts Guide
  • 3DD1.E increases shield capacity.
  • It also occasionally restores 100% shield (and health) capacity.
  • You Have My Shield gives a copy of your shield to your DigiJacks. Nova shields will release a nova every time a DigiJack despawns or is killed.
  • Spec into Optimism to have the DigiJacks spawn with progressively less health, to get them to die instantly and thus release as many novas as possible.
  • Hero Pose increases capacity, recharge rate, and reduces recharge delay. It is found on Paragon and Protagonist class mods.
  • Winning restores a percentage of your shield upon kill. It is found on Antagonist, Entrepreneur, and Chronicler class mods.
  • This has synergy with many shield categories:
  • Amp and nova shields have to fully recharge to grant their bonus.
  • Adaptive, absorb, spike, and booster shields need at least partial capacity to grant their bonus effect.

##Prismatic Bulwark

  • Hyperion item.
  • Grants laser damage, and the other item that does so is also Hyperion (3DD1.E).
  • Grants laser absorb chance. There are many enemies with lasers in the game, and they are very accurate and powerful.
  • Grants laser damage resistance, in case you don’t absorb it.
  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan Body
  • Maliwan Battery
  • Hyperion Capacitor
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from Zarpedon and the Sentinel
  • World drop/Grinder

##Rerouter

Hyperion item. Massive amp damage. Converts amp drain into health.
Its amp drain is about 75% of its capacity, but with 3DD1.E, some BAR, and 10/5 in Winning, you can restore it to full with only one kill, taking full advantage of its high amp damage, and health restoration.

  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan Body
  • Maliwan Battery
  • Maliwan Capacitor
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from Shadowtrap, in The Cortex.
  • World drop/Grinder

##Shield of Ages

Hyperion item. Essentially a Hyperion turtle shield. It has the highest capacity in the game, and low health penalty. With 5/5 in Winning, you can get around 55k capacity for every kill. That’s about what your second best shield has total. With 10/5 in Winning, you’re looking at more than 100k for every kill. Add to that BAR, 3DD1.E’s bonus, and Hero Pose, and you have a massive boost to survival. It comes with fixed parts, and is a quest reward, so no farming or dashboarding is required.

  • Best Parts:
  • Fixed Parts
  • Obtaining:
  • Mission Reward from “The Temple of Boom”, when turned in to Gladstone.

##Adaptive Shield / Reogenator / MORQ / Haymaker

Anshin shields provide elemental resistance, more max health, and have overall decent stats. Reogenator and MORQ also grant some health regeneration. MORQ comes with a voice modulator sounding like Robin Williams. The Haymaker stores the element that damaged you last, and adds it to your melee attack.
The elemental resistance is useful for boss fights, and the max health is welcome too, but other than that, Jack has many shields to choose from, and some combinations are better suited that Anshin shields. Still, they are useful and have decent stats, and the elemental resistance only works when you have some capacity, so Winning can make these work out quite well.

  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan Body
  • Maliwan Battery
  • Hyperion Capacitor
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World drop.
  • MORQ: Once per character, in a box in Motherlesboard.
  • Haymaker: Reward for the Shock Drop Slaughter Dome

#Nova Shields

  • You Have My Shield gives a copy of your shield to your DigiJacks. Nova shields will release a nova every time a DigiJack despawns or is killed.
  • Spec into Optimism to have the DigiJacks spawn with progressively less health, to get them to die instantly and thus release as many novas as possible.

##Avalanche
:snowflake:

Grants roid, spike, and nova damage. Investing in You Have My Shield will give this to your DigiJacks, and when the are killed, they will release a cryo nova. When it’s depleted, you will have the highest roid damage out of all roid shields in the game, which works quite well with the enemies that froze with the novas.

  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan Body
  • Maliwan Battery
  • Maliwan Capacitor
  • Obtaining:
  • World drop/Grinder

##Black Hole
:zap:

Shock only. Creates singularity pull before nova. Same deal with the Avalanche and nova shields in general. Invest in YHMS, and your Digijacks will release novas each time they despawn or are killed. They will also create singularities before every nova, stunning enemies, and throwing them around.

  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan Body
  • Maliwan Battery
  • Maliwan Capacitor
  • Obtaining:
  • The invincible Sentinel
  • World drop/Grinder

##Supernova
:fire: 

Incendiary only. Largest nova radius in the game, combined with high nova damage. Exploding/dying DigiJacks with release novas with larger radius, hitting more enemies than a different shield would.

  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan Body
  • Maliwan Battery
  • Maliwan Capacitor
  • Obtaining:
  • Bruce, in Crisis Scar
  • World drop/Grinder

##Deadly Bloom
:boom:

Explosive only. Glitched rarity. This is actually Legendary and can be acquired as one. Releases a nova both when health and shield are depleted. Exploding/dying DigiJacks with release two novas. With a cryo weapon in your hands, you can really wreak havok with this shield.

  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan Body
  • Maliwan Battery
  • Torgue Capacitor
  • Obtaining:
  • World drop/Grinder

##Nova shield
:snowflake: :zap: :eight_spoked_asterisk: :fire: :boom:

Even common nova shields can be used very effectively. Thanks to the extra novas from DigiJacks, you will be able to spam the area with novas, stunning enemies, applying elements, and generally killing baddies. Spec into Optimism to have the DigiJacks spawn with progressively less health, to get them to die instantly and thus release as many novas as possible.

  • Best Parts:
  • Maliwan Body
  • Maliwan Battery
  • Maliwan Capacitor (Torgue for explosive)
  • Obtaining:
  • World drop/Grinder


#Class Mods
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  • Jack’s skill tree calculator
  • Jack’s skill guide
  • Jack’s Class Mods
  • Note that almost all of Jack’s class mods are made by Hyperion, counting towards Company Man.
  • The percentage bonuses are the maximum value at level 70.
  • Kill skills (and semi-kill skills, like Best Foot Forward and Jack’s Cache) can be activated by investing in Leadership. Dying Digi-Jacks will be treated as killed enemies.

##Chronicler of Elpis

+49% Freeze Chance
+49% Cryo Damage
+14895 Shield Capacity
+4 Lean on me / Persistance / Optimism / Wining / Company Man
The best class mod for cryo gear set-ups. The skill distribution lets you take advantage of cryo, and its synergy with criticals and explosions. Check Comrade Jack for more information.

##Celestial Doppelganger

+49% Critical hit damage
+43% Elemental effect damage
+5 Best Foot Forward / Just Compensation / Teamwork / Collaborate / Incentives / Marginal Benefit
Reverse recoil on all weapons.
Great all-round COM with equal boosts to offense and defense, boosting a plethora of skills: Action Skill duration, Health regeneration, Grenade damage, mag size, damage, DOT damage, crit damage, fire rate. The reverse recoil also helps with Scav, Vladof, and Jakobs weapons, shotguns, and Maliwan beams.

  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from Empyrean Sentinel in Eleseer
  • Grinder/World Drop

##CEO

+24% Team Critical Damage
+31% Team Accuracy
Marginal Benefit / Absolute Advantage / Synergy
Arguably Jack’s best class mod. With Absolute Advantage up to 11/5, you can turn any weapon into a monster. Increased ammo consumption and low mag size become a thing of the past. It works well with everything (reduced chance on launchers), but has unparalleled synergy with Jakobs weapons, like shotguns, the Luck Cannon, Maggie, and revolvers in general.

##Projection

+49% Hyperion weapon damage
+49% Slam damage
Company Man / Best Foot Forward / Absolute Advantage
Another favorite, this mod’s skill selection is phenomenal. Absolute Advantage for free shots, Best Foot Forward for Action Skill duration, and Company Man for massive accuracy and critical damage. All on top of a very high damage boost for Hyperion weapons. Non-Hyperion weapons lose out on the raw damage boost, but can still benefit from the three skills. And having that increased accuracy is nice, because a large spread on a shotgun is a DPC loss. 10/5 or 11/5 n Company Man can fix any spread.
Note that some Hyperion weapons will deal more damage with the CEO class mod, despite this giving Hyperion damage (this depends on your build- for best results and no misinformation, try your preferred weapons with both class mods, if you have them). Still, having Company Man at 11/5 and 10/5 Absolute Advantage is quite a sight to behold, and this class mod is here to stay.

  • Best Parts:
  • Anything that includes Absolute Advantage.
  • Obtaining:
  • Holodome (Guaranteed in Round 4)
  • Gameplay footage:
  • @Joltzdude139 's Jack Nicholson

##Best Man

+53% Grenade damage
Just Compensation / Lean On Me / Marginal Benefit
The best class mod for grenade-oriented build, as well as Tediore reload builds. Maliwan splash damage and Torgue splash damage (for no-unique weapons) is also considered grenade damage, but there are other class mods for those.

  • Best Parts:
  • The (+6 Just Compensation, +5 Lean On Me/+5 Marginal Benefit) Prefix
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Entrepreneur

+33% Reload speed
+43% Shield recharge rate
Synergy / Believe / Winning
The skill selection provides high damage, and high survivability. A Shield of Ages will receive over 100k capacity restored for every kill. With 5/5 Winning, The Rerouter can also restore its amp drain with a single kill, allowing you to use the amp damage constantly (you will need the shield capacity bonus of 3DD1.E and some BAR to raise the shield’s capacity high enough).

  • Best Parts:
  • Praiseworthy (+5 Synergy, +4 Believe, +4 Winning) Prefix
  • Super (+5 Winning, +4 Believe, +4 Synergy) Prefix for OSOK Rerouter amp damage
  • Praiseworthy (+6 Synergy, +5 Believe) Prefix
  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop


#Oz Kits
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@Exotek 's Oz Kit Guide

##3DD1.E
:boom:

  • Hyperion item.
  • Provides laser damage. The other item that does so is also Hyperion (Bulwark).
  • Chance to drop care packages upon kill. Note that Leadership does not activate these.
  • Money: Excellent, for building Money Is Power stacks. Money drop value does not scale with your level.
  • Health & ammo: free health and ammo is always nice.
  • Chance to restore health and shields to 100% capacity. Extreme survivability boost.
  • Provides shield capacity. Great synergy with Winning, to restore as much capacity as possible upon kill.
  • This bonus capacity is required to restore Rerouter’s high amp drain with one kill. You will need 10/5 Winning, and either some BAR or Hero Pose.
  • Obtaining:
  • Drops from CL4P-L3K in Veins of Helios. If left alone during the mission “Eradicate!”, you can come back later to farm it.
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Support Relay
:snowflake:  :eight_spoked_asterisk: :boom: :zap:  :fire:

Hyperion item. Provides weapon damage, depending on your amount of O2 units. Though seemingly lower than the Tranquility, Support Relay is made by Hyperion, and will count towards Company Man, therefore granting a higher total damage bonus than the Tranquility. If you do not invest in Company Man, go with Tranquility.
Also reduces O2 consumption rate by 20% each for every equipped Support Relay in the party.

  • Obtaining:
  • Reward for sidequest To Arms, in Triton Flats.

##Bomber
:snowflake:  :eight_spoked_asterisk: :boom: :zap:  :fire:

Grants grenade damage and a chance to throw a free grenade when airborne.
Grenade damage boosts Tediore reload damage, Torgue splash damage (not on Flakker and RL), and Maliwan splash damage (not on RL).
A good companion for Best Man.

  • Obtaining:
  • Grinder/World Drop

##Tranquility
:snowflake:  :eight_spoked_asterisk: :boom: :zap:  :fire:

Increases your weapon damage based on how much oxygen you have. Its damage bonus is higher than the Support Relay, but it is not made by Hyperion. If you are investing in Company Man, Support Relay is better.

  • Obtaining:
    • Grinder/World Drop

##Precision Strike
:snowflake:  :eight_spoked_asterisk: :boom: :zap:  :fire:

Hyperion item. Increases Accuracy and Critical Damage while Airborne. Especially useful when using guns with low Accuracy (like Shotguns with double or bigger barrels, Splitters and so forth) as it’s when the boost in Accuracy is the most noticeable. The Crit Damage bonus is also a big help in increasing DPS.

  • Obtaining:
    • Grinder/World Drop

##Systems Purge
:snowflake:  :eight_spoked_asterisk: :boom: :zap:  :fire:

This Oz Kit uses some of your Oxygen in order to deal a non-elemental nova on hit that can shatter air masks. Also replenishes Oxygen on kill. All in all, it’s a fairly consistent boost to DPS, especially in Atmosphere. It has little, if any synergy with Jack, but it is just too good to be left out. If you are using the Quasar or singularity grenade mods, or even the Black Hole shield with your DigiJacks, you can pull enemies together to get as many as possible in the radius of the Purge’s nova. Other than that, if you are not using Tediore reloads, or Company Man, and want some damage in an atmosphere, but do not have the Tranquility Oz Kit, then this is a good choice.

  • Obtaining:
  • Mission Reward from “Eradicate!”, when you destroy CL4P-L3K


#Future Testing Candidates
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#Additional Resources
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(Here comes the BOOOOM) #2

I think the hyperion stock only increases crit damage on hyperion lasers. For everything else, Dahl is the best stock.

(President of Jellybeans) #3

Also Hyperion Blaster > Hyperion beam in most cases. Range is longer and beams don’t get continuous damage anyway.

(Impala) #4

Neither do Hyperion blasters. I’ve got blasters in my list anyway. Along with other items.

Question: Does Thunderfire’s fire splash get boosted by grenade damage bonuses?

(Piphoff) #6

Needs more Development and Crowdsourcing :slight_smile:

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(Impala) #7

A class mod guide would also help.

(Mohamed) #8

Some suggestions (note that these are what I use, don’t have to be the best)

Proletarian Revolution as an alternative to the Anarchist.

Super Shooterang. A fun pistol.

Thunderfire. It fires 2 elements (Fire & Shock. Shock gun, but fire nova when hitting a target. Good against most enemies. Since it strips shield + deals x2 damage when they’re unshielded since fire deals x2, even in vacuum)

Shield of Ages as a shield. It’s a Hyperion turtle shield. very high capacity, low health penalty (-20k HP IIRC) and easy to get.

Prismatic Bulwark. Doesn’t need to be said why.

Rerouter. Good Amp shield. Okayish Amp shot drain, high recharge delay, restores amp drain as HP. Hyperion item.

Company Man is a nice alternative to the Bullpup. It’s pretty much a shotgun that does everything better than the Bullpup except damage.

Hard Reboot is a nice shock pistol.

Data Scrubber grenade mod is good when used with the Shield of Ages, since it’s basically a transfusion grenade that instead of restoring HP, restores shield.

Longbow Quaser is one of the best grenades for Jack, imo.

Longbow Cryo Transfusion can work too.

There’s also glitched new Hyperion shotguns. A Practicable Thinking w/ Green glitch can be OP.

Double Penetrating glitched Slapper is very good as well.

Pancea Adaptive Shield is very good for Jack.

M0RQ/Reogenator (preferably Reo, but M0RQ is easier to get)

The Omni-Cannon sniper rifle is very good with him too, it’s already accurate and has little recoil, Jack improves that A LOT. With my build, the gun doesn’t even move when shooting.

Black Hole shield is good with him. But inferior to Pancea Adaptive, imo.

Meganade is a nice crowd control grenade.

3DD1E is a good Oz Kit for him, and it’s Hyperion.

Purple Juggernaut Oz kit also works for him good.

There’s more. Sorry if this is unorganized.

(TECHiSOBA) #9

while your in the process of reformatting the thread, how about you add facts for the guns that…
how the guns performs with (10-11/5) Absolute Advantage
whats the best manufacture bonus with Sponsored By

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(President of Jellybeans) #10

I agree, You should have a section for best sponsorship, either on each weapon specifically or as a foreword.

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(TECHiSOBA) #11

for grenades… (Longbow delivery, Fuse Time 0.0)
Quasar
Cryo Singularity
Storm Front
Vladof Cryo AoE
Shock/Cryo Transfusion or Leech

for shields…
Shield of Ages > Blast-Proof Fabled Tortoise > Grounded Turtle
Prismatic Bulwark
Rerouter
Adaptive > Haymaker > Reogenerator
The Sham
Grounded Asteroid Belt

for R.Launchers…
Berrigan (Vladof grip, Torgue exhaust, Maliwan sight, Damage acc/prefix)
Vanquisher (Vladof grip+exhaust+sight, Fire Rate acc/prefix, Piercing Rounds or Boominator luneshine or 4400 glitch)

for OzKits…
3DD1E
Precision Strike
Strafing Run
System Purge
Tranquility > Support Relay
Ack Ack
Bomber

other weaponry…
Hard 88Fragnum (Torgue grip, Piercing Rounds luneshine) (with AA and SB becomes a viable gun)
Practicable Thinking (Hyperion grip+stock, Punisher luneshine or 0404 glitch)
Thunderfire (under-performing but with AA and SB becomes a viable gun, cant say no to triple element bruh’!)
Fast Talker (Scav or Maliwan grip, Dahl stock, Damage or Fire Rate+Bullet Speed acc/prefix)

(Mohamed) #12

Glitched Double Penetrating Slapper > 88 Fragnum, even with AA and SB.

(TECHiSOBA) #13

idk in my experience and testing imo…
Hard 88Fragnum w/ PR luneshine > DP/Hard Slapper 0404

(Mohamed) #14

Oh, I didn’t test it w/ Luneshine. Only normal.

(TECHiSOBA) #15

well a…
Hard Slapper w/ PR luneshine can or will outperform a Hard 88Fragnum w/ PR luneshine
considering both guns can get bonuses from Just Compensation and Bomber ozkit

but overall for me…
88Fragnum shines more than the Slapper
AA can negate the ammo consumption problem
with the PR luneshine and elemental bonus from SB improves the gun a lot
the +25 Crit damage is a good plus

Fragnum w/ PR luneshine give it a Cryo element
Fragnum w/ Boominator luneshine give it a Shock element

(Impala) #16

I have the lists ready for Shields, Oz kits, and grenade mods.

Sponsored By is at the bottom of the top gear. I think I have it covered.
I could add it for every gun though. Why not?

I will add my lists of weapons, and we’ll see what else the community suggests.
I don’t think Fragnum is top gear material. If I’m at point blank, i’ll use a shotgun. If I’m at point blank and want to use a pistol, I’ll use a Luck Cannon. Or a Maggie.

(Impala) #17

Added Sponsored By for every weapon. Be gentle.

(Impala) #18

Proletarian Revolution as an alternative to the Anarchist: I can see how we could use AA , JC, and Marginal Benefit to keep the mag going, and get very high, but the same can be done for the Anarchist with the Loop glitch. Is the Revolution actually better?

Super Shooterang: Never used it. But I won’t add stuff without numbers.

Thunderfire: Blasters outdamage it, but three elements would be fun. I’ll add it to HM later.

Shield of Ages: duh

Prismatic Bulwark: duh

Rerouter: duh

Company Man…does everything better than the Bullpup except damage: Well, damage is the main focus. DPS rather. Is the CM better for DPS?

Hard Reboot: Everything in the list outperforms it by a large margin. AA etc fix its problems, but the same skills on the other pistols do wonders.

Data Scrubber: Winning is more reliable and frees up the grenade slot for mods that can actually kill.

Longbow Quasar: duh

Longbow Cryo Transfusion: Jack has no survivability issues. Transfusion grenades are not needed. Damaging grenades are more important.

Thinking: Will go in. These are better than the Bullpup now. And AA, JC, and Marginal Benefit can keep the magazine full and the glitch going for days.

Double Penetrating glitched Slapper: slow projectiles and same issue with Maliwan pistols: Jakobs, Anarchists and Taser are way better.

Panacea Adaptive Shield: will go in

M0RQ/Reogenator

The Omni-Cannon: It’s in the list. kinda

Black Hole: had it in the list. It’s in now. Love it. Took me a month to change shield.

Meganade: Haven’t gotten this yet. I still think Quasar’s tesla is better, if I get a persuasive argument, i’ll put it in. The way I see it, Jack can already fill the area with singularities from Black hole.

3DD1E: This is the undisputed champion of oz kits for Jack, bar the bomber for tediore chucking.

Purple Juggernaut: Resistances are ok, but like I said above, Jack has exceptional survivability, and a juggernaut would take up the slot for eddie/bomberwhich are more useful imo.

(Impala) #19

Quasar: Was my first choice
Cryo Singularity: all are hyperion, they have to be here. great utility, and quasar does not come in all elements.
Storm Front: multikill is what we want. yes.
Vladof Cryo: my swap speed is good, so i switch to a weapon to freeze. if freezing with grenade, i’d go hyperion singularity for the utility.
Shock/Cryo Transfusion or Leech: survivability is not lacking, these are not needed.

for shields…
Shield of Ages > Blast-Proof Fabled Tortoise > Grounded Turtle : The Shield of Ages exists. All other turtles are redundant.
Prismatic Bulwark: best jack shield before dlc.
Rerouter: Best hyperion amp, and you can restore its drain in one kill. the bee is back. for sniping anyway.
Adaptive > Haymaker > Reogenerator: These are ok for boss fights etc. i’ll add them.
The Sham: puny capacity, but can absorb rockets, vehicle rockets, lasers, bullets, turret rockets. i’ll add it.
Grounded Asteroid Belt: why?

for R.Launchers…
Berrigan: badaboom is more powerful.
Vanquisher: as above. also, kaneda’s laser is probably the best rl now. with badaboom for the other elements

for OzKits…
3DD1E: duh. Timothy was made with Eddie in mind.
Precision Strike: hyperion is yes
Strafing Run: jack has a lot of fire rate and reload skills. precision strike is better for purple.
System Purge: too good to be missing although no real synergy, kinda like the flakker.
Tranquility > Support Relay: Not if you have company man
Ack Ack: maybe for eos, but i see no other use. i need a reason
Bomber: duh

other weaponry…
Hard 88Fragnum (with AA and SB becomes a viable gun): everything becomes viable with AA and SB, but the Luck Cannon/Maggie/Taser/anarchist become monsters with AA and SB
Practicable Thinking: these are sweet
Thunderfire: kinda mediocre, but three elements are fun. maybe in honorable mentions
Fast Talker: wasn’t this better than the torrent by 7% or something? it’s in.

(CDR_Shepard) #20

[quote=“impala, post:1, topic:349445”]
Projection

… Note that most Hyperion weapons will deal more damage with the CEO class mod, despite this giving Hyperion damage. …

Obtaining:Holodome (Guaranteed in Round 4)[/quote]

re: the Projection class mod – I’ve been farming Round 5 (the Badass round) of the Holodome for this; it also is a reward for Round 4?

re: Hyperion weapons dealing more damage with the CEO over the Projection mod? Really? Was this tested by someone? Makes me curious to go to the test dummies and try.

(Impala) #21

That might have been Collaborate messing up my tests.
I’ll do a short run now and see.

EDIT
Tested Taser, Excalibastard, Cheat Code, Longest Yard. Only the Cheat Code did more damage with the CEO than with the Projection:
Cheat Code
This build
All kill skills active
8 stacks of Company Man
CEO with +5 Synergy: 132k damage on a crit
Proj with +6 in CM: 125k damage on a crit.

It will take some serious testing to see what Hyperion weapons are better off with the CEO, and it depends on your build too.
I’ll go and edit it.