I know whiskeys kit pretty well. But I have had to be honest with myself and admit I am a pretty bad whiskey :.( which sucks cause I really like how he plays…
I agree about the bene thing. I have been out of pvp for about a week though. Most benes I see are awful. But he probably needs reworked in some way… I am literally slaughtering with him quicker than any other character I have picked up before
Nope. He doesn’t need a rework, I promise. Where he’s at now rewards good players for being good, and punishes players for being a f*cking idiot.
Unless you’re fighting a team full of Mellkas and squishy melees. No offense, Eden, but you’re girl needs a buff or two.
Mellka players are like my math grades. They have to try extra hard, and practice a sh*t ton, to just be at par with the others.
This is a skill matchup. She doesn’t have much over Benedict. If you land the shield stun, you are better off. If not, then he has the upper hand. A portion of his rockets’ damage goes through Gali’s shield
I’m usually lucky about getting melee characters, but that’s because i play Meltdown, probably. Marquis, Mellka, WF, Montana, and Boldur are my least favorite to see as Toby, in that order.
For you, @EdenSophia, i’d probably break my rule of using Benedict in PVP post-buff; but ONLY if you made my life hell as Toby.
You play against me, Handsome, and I’ll make Whiskey take up the top THREE positions on that list!.
I’m not great at finishing kills, so I love a good Pendles, but I can put out so much DPS, you’ll regret ever buying a Playstation!
My retort is to go look at my latest post on your “audio log” thread.
Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame. Is that all you can come up with?
I have a particularly vulgar “comeback” that involves both the first half of the qouted word, and yo mama.
I’ll hold it in though; big brother is watching…
And then, when you’re about to get your first Mellka quad kill, a random Rath runs up and kill steals your final target. A fortnight later and I’m still in mourning.
I hate Rath. Like, a lot. His skill floor and skill ceiling are way too low, and close to each other for how much damage he deals. Rework Rath, please!
Not a personal vendetta, he certianly hasn’t cheated me out of a quad kill, when I only have around 4 total triple kills.
I’m still determined to get my first penta on Mell. Chances are I’ll get it on Gali by accident first, though. 
And yes, Rath is a bit of a forgotten BB at this point, isn’t he? If not for the health buff, I’d suggest he’s suffered the same fate of nerf-then-neglect that characterizes Mellka (whose current viability is subject to much valid debate, but who I’d say is a potentially powerful character who unfortunately has too many easy checks and who has been lazily hit with “short term” - but now probably permanent - hotfixes that make her less fun to play.)
Maybe reduce hawckeye duration, default 2 homing rockets with right lvl 1 adds 1 extra rocket.
Imo his ult and hawckeye should be switched… Be able to shot 4-5 guided rockets deals more dmg than his ult.
I know benedict design is all around hawckeye but its legendary + its low cd lets any benedict get close secure a hawckeye hit and lift off while shooting the sky and hitting each rocket.
Rath ult cd got increased and latter its dmg nerfed, plz Gearbox/Devs/balancers anyone!! Think about your nerf!!
Many of my friends quites with so many nerf leaving just a couple of strong characters. Maybe is not that hawckeye is stronger it has always been but with all the hp and cc nerf, benedict lacks a good counter.
This fkers can lift off regen shields and get back to safety. Benedict is the natural counter for all meele battleborns but who is the counter of benedict? Marquis? With his low hp? Benedict needs to risk some hp to get close hawckeye and jump back +liftoff while shooting 100-0 marquis.
There are some solid choices to push back benedict but he can always go back, get some heals wait for hawckeye and finish 100-0: orendi, melka, marquis, alani, miko, thorn, caldarius, sometimes ambra, rath, benedict,ernest?(i havent tried to kill one), kid ultra, dragón. Did i miss anyone?
Awe that makes me sad… I quite like rath. I suppose I will have to play him a little more now. I still think he is quite good. Just not in need of dreadwind nerfs.
Those conditions don’t sound especially rare to me - especially now that Hawkeye can go through team mates, and most of the maps have perches that allow you to have a non-obstructed, open view of the battlefield (to varying degrees, of course). As for “chipped”, Mellka has 60% of the health+shield pool of Oscar Mike, and 85% of the health+shield pool of Orendi. She may as well be permanently “chipped” relative to the rest of the cast.
When you say it’s “true for any BB,” it kinda glosses over the specific detail that Mellka is not just any BB… she’s a serious outlier among the BB.
Mell has artificially induced poor accuracy though. With Benedit, you can at least practice aiming and leading your rocket to get better. Mellka was hotfixed to have a serious inherent inaccuracy on her pistol that you can’t even improve via recoil.
Probably, depens of the team aso -Benny can waveclear or crouch for the ocasion to kill, not both- though I see no hope on maps like Coldsnap. Yes rockets now go through teammates (not through minions though), but open view works both ways and Benny hunting in such conditions is a primetarget. I personally find large plains and sniper perches of, say, Overgrowth very disadvantageuos for this griffin because every perch is generally two way shooting range (and Benny is not good at range ;)).[quote=“EdenSophia, post:35, topic:1550804”]
Mell has artificially induced poor accuracy though.
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And Benny’s rockets are sooooo slow, even with 25% speed aug. And his firing speed is both slow and has (surprisingly) large recoil. And he is also a slow Battleborn - be it air or ground. To compensate one would have to get close to a target (especially bad when talking about fighting Mellka, first thing to avoid), and have some escape route as you won’t live long after you score a kill. In that case Benny is very…territorial, he can be expected in certain places. Also: Hawkaye (which can’t be triggered mid air) can actually hit anything when shooting through team members at the enemy team, you need said coinditions to pick a specific target else you just spam 5 rockets without effect.
BTW Can’t say anything in favour of Mellka as I don’t play her, but wasn’t she a skinny, el dragonish character that can both jump insanely high, reload lightning fast and spam poisonous, debuffing grenades? Gotta try her someday. Anyway, whether due to her being picked less or her mobility, I didn’t kill nor Hawkeyed much Mellkas in my rocket aviant career, this gotta mean something.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FmjIKi6YMDhhAAOU6WKVCLixYAn_DpsEyWLCG-6f-aw/htmlview
According to this he’s not all that slow - significantly quicker than Mellka (lower number is better.)
Mellka’s venom doesn’t debuff. It’s just a small DOT that lasts four seconds. She jumps fairly high (but not nearly as high as Thorn), and her reload is quicker than the other ranged but not “lightning.” She’s mobile through use of her two skills and a passive cooldown helix ability, Air Stall. It takes work.
For the short duration last night with you guys we saw one Benedict, not a real huge influx but mind you I’ve been on BB hiatus for some period of time. As for kills with Hawkeye…I’m like the most unlucky of the Benedict players, all my rockets seem to hit the environment…damn.
Like you with Mellka I like to play an extremely mobile game, who has time for perches . Atleast you’ll be safe knowing whilst benedict is in the air there will be no hawkeye or fire and brimstone raining down upon you from the heavens above (unless Ambra is near arrrrggghhhh). I agree with a couple of posters here that quite possibly mellka is overdue for a buff. Speaking frankly not that I think you need it lol so if you are listening @Jythri buff everyone elses Mellka except for Eden’s tehehehe
That’s because we played some Capture and Face Off… I have six incursion matches in a row with a Benedict on the enemy team. 
Hopefully they were just fledglings and got wiped 
I’m working all weekend so I won’t be on much over that period but I hope to atleast log a few hours in either tomorrow or Friday. That way I can have an informed opinion on the subject at hand,
haha gone for a couple of weeks and I’m blown away by the fact that sentries now have mortars hehe ahhh the little things.
I need more BB time with you guys, it’s like group therapy. I find it rather cathartic
P.s. let Eden have the buffs too, I feel bad 