That’s unfortunately what happens with small PVP communities, only the hardcore players stay for long and the casuals can’t really get into the loop. (One user wrote a more in-depth issue referencing another game on this very same topic, I wonder if they’re still around? I can’t remember where they talked about it) We’d need a big surge of more casual players and a way to guarantee they won’t be playing against the hardcore ones to maybe have a chance at reviving the pvp community.
Don’t mention the Humble Bundle, don’t mention the Humble Bundle… Sigh… I wonder if that could help again… Maybe not…
The only real possible solution for this (except BB going free to play) is this:
Other than wiping out the memory of “I heard bad things about this game” or “Yeah, BB is trash! Give Borderlands 3 now!” from the internet trolls and people that just love to hate - it’s impossible to hope for a significant increase of Battleborn playerbase.
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Destronoma
(Destro, the Coolest Pirate You'll Ever Know)
#23
I’m surprised they haven’t tried having a free to play weekend yet.
Maybe that’s the case for newcomers. They have it rough on this game no matter what platform they use. As a veteran solo player I haven’t notice anything I would consider hardscore/cutthrought type of treatment.
Yes, there are players that message me out of anger if I kill them or if I’m doing something annoying (like constantly stunning them against a wall with my Boldur!). Also, if they win against my pug team. That’s part of the game. You won’t be playing any pvp online game without receiving any negatives comments from other players.
Edit: I forgot to mention that this game doesn’t require verbal communication to be well coordinated in a pug/premade team. The player only needs the skill to be aware of his/her surroundings at all times.
I agree that with the now permanent addition of Bots Battle coupled with up until today, there being only one place to pvp (Quick Match) the competition had become more extreme. There were no gimmes, and the few low CR level players i saw were at least quite competent, if not necessarily skilled. I commented to one of the guys i play with off and on that it felt like a marathon. That you used to have a tough match, followed by a couple of easy matches. Every win was something i felt like had to be fought for tooth and nail, in the past week or two. With things being expanded back out some, with the Incursion queue and the Solo queue the intensity might regress back to average, which is fine i suppose. Sometimes it’s nice not to have to try too hard. I don’t always want to feel compelled to pick certain characters just to fill in gaps and give myself and my team a fighting chance.
The caveat here is that it did / has done something for me. I think i’d gotten rather laissez-faire in my approach to matches pre winter update, and wasn’t playing up to my potential. Being slammed up against the meat grinder that was the top premades, as a mostly solo player (because everybody is always full) over and over has actually forced me to adapt and become a better player /shrug
solo q’ed all night and had a blast. had good teams and bad teams, good drafts and bad drafts. it was such a wild ride, just like game was at launch. i never even bothered checking crs since it was all solo it had no point.
best part is my latency means i always get to pick last so i try to fill for my team and give my thought processes as we’re drafting.
played some bot battles earlier to help a newbie friend and one of the other players said they had no idea what they were doing, so id tried to communicate even more lol. i hope i helped some folks!
and i even got one md match in tonight! that more than i have been getting in the past week! lol.
i love the solo q. i hope it stays healthy on q times <3
and i love the draft.
<3
I still think it had more to do with bots battle <----- newer players went this way / everybody else had literally no choice but to go this way -------> quick match
than just a large portion of the playerbase dropping off that contributed to the competitiveness recently, but of course we’re all just speculating since we don’t have the data
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Lynxwolfe
(Lynxwolfe same screen name on everything)
#35
I may be in the minority here. I like the hardcore sweaty palm matches. I get lazy. I find something that works and learn to do it well. I play a whole bunch of characters and got average with everybody. Average…that ain’t cutting it no more man.
The new level of competition… made me get better. I love having to work hard to win. I like having to try new tactics and use my mic.
Turned my challenge up to 11? I’ll start trying to compete a 12!
If I want to chill, I got BOTS. if I want to play a tactical game… QM seems just right.
So yes, more cutthroat, less forgiving.
Sidenote to those who play with me or have yet to: I’m looking into getting a faster more reliable internet. I liken my current status to DBZ training in high gravity. Normal gravity seems easy right? Just wait till I stop lagging
To mods: sorry about that, just had no other place to put that. I’ll stay on topic.
I feel some of the hardcore guys that got super good at battleborn fall into two camps.
Curb Stomp everything and it becomes a tragedy to lose (which I feel farming noobs is akin to mental masturbation - in most cases…we’ve all done it, even if by accident).
Players who teach and encourage players.
We don’t need to tone down the competition. We need more number twos and less number ones. Obvious bathroom jokes aside…anyone agree?
I don’t know if it’s because I live in Europe, but my biggest issue with PVP is that nobody talks. I agree that it’s possible to be coordinated without it, but it takes a full team of very experienced players with a high degree of awareness. Unlikely in a PUG…
Slight segue for the guy who was looking for a team. I’m happy to form up; I’m on PS4 and Battleborn Sustained as j03K3rDS. Look me up.
I had my first Toxic Teammate, I will refer to him as Toxic from here on out, experience post WU… First while searching for an opposing team, he had his mic on and was making grunting noises, spitting, and all sorts of gross sounds. I muted him, not annoyed by that by itself. Then we were playing Incursion and the opposing team was absolutely stomping us, they were all in the hundreds, our team composed of 2 very low, 1 50s, me 114, Toxic 128. There’s some games where you just get killed, no matter how good you are. Especially when the other team is running heavy CC.
So by the end of the game, I had an assist or two, no kills as Kelvin (who I suck as anyways, but need his stun 3 BB lore that doesn’t count in Bots). He had 2 kills as Miko and not a high heal. With 10 minutes left I die and see him just standing in the base for almost the entirety of my respawn duration and then a message pops up from him saying “go practice with Bots more” hahaha! I replied and explained I was working on Kelvins lore. He never replied. He didn’t leave the group and we played two more rounds, which we won easily, the second game we were on par together and the last game I did better than him. He mainly ran around gathering shards for his full orange gear sets.
First of all… everyone is going to have some bad games. Secondly, bots aren’t even comparable to players. They only go so far in preparing someone, so everyone needs to be welcoming of players in PvP, otherwise they will never be pushed to improve to compete with other players. And finally, if you don’t like the team then quit after the match is over and find a new team. Don’t badger your team.
That’s my only kind of toxic experience post WU and it really wasn’t that big. I found it very funny that he spent 40 or seconds of the game time to type a rude message to me, and I assume the rest of the team since we all had 0 kills, instead of actually contributing to the outcome.
