Did your hawkeye have a dahl stock? It seems to me like Axton’s recoil skills would be enough to provide all the recoil reduction you need. I’d rather go for the damage, but that’s just me.
The Hawk Eye does not need the Jakobs relic for it to shine as it has really low recoil, in fact it may have the least amount of recoil among Jakobs sniper rifles. The last time I tried it with a Jakobs relic with accuracy recovery and recoil reduction I really did not notice much of a difference between having the relic equipped as opposed to not having it equipped.
Its more for the mag, as the Heart doesn’t really help with the Bee. And more recoil reduction helps for full on spam mode when I’m reaching that ~5 firerate.
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You could be onto something as the Chikamin I had, did have a Dahl stock.
It also had a Vladof Grip and Dahl sight which seemed a very nice FR combo. And the weapon had virtually NO recoil with Steady specced at 5/5. I was spamming all 10 rounds of the mag in seconds…with all crits…it literally stayed glued to the target. I could not even come close to that with the TumTum and the Skookum but they did NOT have Dahl Stocks.
So you are saying that a Dahl stock on say a Skookum might have a very similar effect.
Yikes…I honestly don’t think I’m up to farming Vorac again for a while…and to do it long enough to get the right parts…I can’t even imagine…LOL
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Now try it again… With the godfinger 
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I actually have one…somewhere in a mule…
Am curious…will try to dig that out.
But isn’t the normal shooting range a BAD testing spot for it???
With it dependent on a range split.
I would be interested in some god finger testing but yeah the target dummy is a bad spot to test it since to get the Max damage you have to be pretty far away
Exactly.
You could always make a Sal to make farming Vorac easier. Its what I did, now I’ve got 6 or 7 hawkeyes lol.
I have toyed with the idea of a Sal…but he doesn’t seem like much of a challenge.
I think my next toon is a Gun/sniper Zero
Play krieg man you won’t regret it.
Who needs the challenge? If its just for farming raids, he just needs to wreck things, no challenge required.
It makes your life much easier when you can get any gear you want with relatively little time spent. It allows you to try out things you normally can’t. If you have some time to spare, just make a Sal, get him some deputy gear (or go pimp-creamer for Vorac) and farm u some gear.
You both make VERY good points…
Decisions, decisions…LOL
I mean don’t get me wrong I love sal for framing gear. But I’ll stop derailing this thread now
Random question, but did you include the longbow in your test? I’d imagine it would sit comfortably between the hawkeye and Morningstar, if not overshadow the both of them.
The longbow is very good. It isn’t boosted by grenade damage but its strong without it
Do any of Axton’s TG snipers get grenade boosts? I thought the pimp didn’t get them.
No unless I’m missing one. The volcano do but most people don’t consider it top but I think there worthy of HM
Storm gets Grenade boosts as well…IIRC…but definitely not TG
I know it does but he asked about top snipers for Axton
I didn’t try a Longbow…
I personally don’t care for it because of it’s limitations:
Fire Only
No Scope
Slow Projo Speed
Curved ballistics
Harder to get Crits than other snipers
But I have friends who love it!!
I also think that many times there is a VAST difference between theoretical DPS and actual consistent achievable results in game
Longbow is a perfect example of this.
Another example is the Interfacer. Theorhetical DPS is tremendous IF you are engaging at one of the two “sweet spot” ranges (in your face at about 5 meters or less and at about 25 meters)…where all your pellets converge. Step outside those ranges and a Conference Call will do better. And try staying in that sweet spot in a running fight…very hard. Try to snip Terras Tentacles with an Interfacer…or fight Craw with an Interfacer…You have just handicapped yourself. Now try a Conference Call that is way more forgiving on engagement ranges. The difference is huge.
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