I have toyed with the idea of a Sal…but he doesn’t seem like much of a challenge.
I think my next toon is a Gun/sniper Zero
Play krieg man you won’t regret it.
Who needs the challenge? If its just for farming raids, he just needs to wreck things, no challenge required.
It makes your life much easier when you can get any gear you want with relatively little time spent. It allows you to try out things you normally can’t. If you have some time to spare, just make a Sal, get him some deputy gear (or go pimp-creamer for Vorac) and farm u some gear.
You both make VERY good points…
Decisions, decisions…LOL
I mean don’t get me wrong I love sal for framing gear. But I’ll stop derailing this thread now
Random question, but did you include the longbow in your test? I’d imagine it would sit comfortably between the hawkeye and Morningstar, if not overshadow the both of them.
The longbow is very good. It isn’t boosted by grenade damage but its strong without it
Do any of Axton’s TG snipers get grenade boosts? I thought the pimp didn’t get them.
No unless I’m missing one. The volcano do but most people don’t consider it top but I think there worthy of HM
Storm gets Grenade boosts as well…IIRC…but definitely not TG
I know it does but he asked about top snipers for Axton
I didn’t try a Longbow…
I personally don’t care for it because of it’s limitations:
Fire Only
No Scope
Slow Projo Speed
Curved ballistics
Harder to get Crits than other snipers
But I have friends who love it!!
I also think that many times there is a VAST difference between theoretical DPS and actual consistent achievable results in game
Longbow is a perfect example of this.
Another example is the Interfacer. Theorhetical DPS is tremendous IF you are engaging at one of the two “sweet spot” ranges (in your face at about 5 meters or less and at about 25 meters)…where all your pellets converge. Step outside those ranges and a Conference Call will do better. And try staying in that sweet spot in a running fight…very hard. Try to snip Terras Tentacles with an Interfacer…or fight Craw with an Interfacer…You have just handicapped yourself. Now try a Conference Call that is way more forgiving on engagement ranges. The difference is huge.
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The Volcano does
and
The Sniders don’t, if they did there would literally be no reason to use the Volcano on anyone.
Fixed that my bad
When cool threads like this show up, it reminds me that I barely use any gear in this game and ought to branch out more! But honestly Bee Hawking and Rough Riding with Maya is so dang useable in almost everything in this game, its hard to give up using the same characters and gear! But I only have 9 levels til Sal is 72, so ill try for the Morningstar then! Thanks again for inspiring me! 
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I borrowed a Skookum Hawkeye with a Dahl stock and indeed…it did improve the reliability and make the Hawkeye less jumpy for crits…
Buuuuut…
The Chkamin was still superior…all 10 rounds stayed glued in almost the same exact spot as fast as I could spam the trigger.
In my mind I would still prefer it but if you have a quicker/steadier hand than I do…you might prefer a Skookum.
Did you ever do some more test on the morning stars hidden crit stacking thing?
Yes…
goes up 3 to 4 times…maybe even 5
but caps out there and stacks decay quickly
doesn’t seem to matter if you miss a crit or not
I couldn’t get the exploit you guys are talking about to kick in.
I must be doing it wrong.
It’s a GREAT sniper…and VERY ammo efficient…and comes in all Elements
Yeah I agree its a good sniper. Not gonna have that debate again lol. I’m curious as to why u can’t get the glitch to work but oh well it matters not.
send me a pm if you would please…on how to invoke the glitch.
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Yeah I agree its a good sniper. Not gonna have that debate again lol. I’m curious as to why u can’t get the glitch to work but oh well it matters not.
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