Thank you again! Im making some progress already now. Ive found Oscar Mike to be a good starter for me, but Orendi is still a cherished favourite. But i’ll keep practicing until i get better 
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OM is a great starter.
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NP.
Oh it really does and never be afraid to ask to party up after a game. Worse thing is they’ll say no. I myself have met some great people over the years. Many of us still play together regularly.
Btw did you know orendi is the same voice actor as tiny
Oh and one last tip if you want a real challenge try advanced on hardcore mode. I got really good with Toby from just one game and never even played him before. Story mode does scale based on players and the harder it is the better loot. Just like in Bl. I got my first legendary that game too. Have a great time battling!! 
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(cough)tootingmyownguidehorn(cough)
There’s some great advice in here, just figured it might help you out too 
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Yes, i recognised a lot of the voices so checked it on IMDB. they really did just get their old VAs from BL back, didnt they? 
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Actually, while i have your attention…
Im going through my gear, trying to make my “Orendi Blendi” loadout, and ive remembered something that confuses me - what the hell is “CC duration”?
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Cc is crowd control. stuns, slows, silence. Etc.
Most items reduce the length of cc effects on you or boost other stats after you have been cced
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Thanks! Now i understand that, i can make better, more informed decisions on my gear
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I actually run damage reduction after cc on almost every build. Makes you harder to kill after stuns that kill most people. They come in pretty decent green gear with health regen+ And no negatives. It makes good cheap gear for pvp for annoying tank stuns. (Gali, Bolder, Montana, kelvin stuns are all sick stuns and they almost never get the kill off me)
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Honestly, this game was like league to me.
It was meh until I found my character, after playing it for a bit the game opened up because I was better.
There’s only 25 (26 soon) characters, just try out a bunch of them and hopefully you find one that sticks for you. That Character was Thorn for me.
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Nice work @_Mojo. Funny enough I was just writing a “Rookie help guide” when one of my buddies let me know about your post. You totally beat me to it. Lol.
But On topic.
The most important thing I feel rookies never understand is that this game is decidely not “Deathmatch” never eever play it like a Team Deathmatch. I’m glad you got great advice @fenris83mc This community is great with helping folks out. Hope your experience improves soon!
Also because @Ryballs would do it anyway. The forums have a PS 4 community called “Battleborne Forumites” it’s open to all and im betting most of the users come from our little community here so check it out.
Happy gaming all!
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i am also a former destiny player. 3k hours wasted on destiny, and no exaggeration there. it is so night and day. @Misguided had great information in regards to objective play. you will CONSTANTLY see people going for player kills right away at level 1. ignore them. just clear your minion wave and wait for the next one. farm some shards, see if they gave you an opportunity to take out a buildable quickly without overextending, then prepare for that next minion wave. you are waiting for a power spike point on your character, or for them to make a mistake and overextend, whichever comes first.
This is the most important information i can share with you. there’s no instant kill crap in this game like destiny. you have to actually outplay people in this game to beat them, not just catch them distracted for a quarter of a second. pay attention to what level your opponent is before you start looking into engaging for player kills. if they are like two levels higher than you, you would be much better served to smartly lurk around clearing some waves, building, etc. to try to catch up in levels. you are almost never on a level playing field in this game in encounters due to the leveling system. that took me a very long time to adjust to. in destiny you have just as much chance to kill the other person as they do to kill you the entire time. there are always odds in this game, though
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Nice to know im not the only one! I just dont see why i should rage-quit a game i only just bought without giving myselve a chance to improve. After all this advice, my experience improved a lot, i made a new friend because we were teamed together and we communicated, and i unlocked a bunch of new characters to try.
Loving this community so far!
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And thats what we like to see. Another soul converted for the great Minreck.
Oh Also dunno if it came up before @fenris83mc but try to learn at least one Character from every class, so try to eventually have a Tank, Melee Assassin, Midrange, Support and Skirmisher under your belt. Not mastered, heavens thats hard but at least good enough that you can swap depending on your teams needs. They may not say it but having a teammate in the lobby that can swap roles is something everyone loves having.
Keep it up. 
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Yeah, im certainly going to try - thought i’d try and get used to Ambra as a healer, because i dont think i’d do well as Miko. ISIC seems hilarious, im trying out Toby too, and…well, im trying everyone really. Fun times abound!
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Ambras actually a bit harder then Miko, mostly due to her healing only stemming from her fire orbs or sunspots? I dunno for sure but I have yet to meat an ambra that heals as well as a good miko, That said word of advice if I may? Use your sunspots liberally and please put em near your tanks and melee guys first. I’ve played so many games where our Ambra either uses them Offensively only - so now I have to run into the fray, at low HP to heal- or only drops them at the bases which is pretty useless considering we have that hp station there already. I;ve seen some amazing Ambras too, but those few seem to just work at assassin or kill support. mostly building and working with the tanks to help wittle down the other guys or finish em off, so don’t overextend, she;s squishy.
Isic is a great support once he gets his ultimate. Played dozens of Isics and if you have a decent on your side you can push like nobodies business, he’s also a lovely target to hide behind 
I love working with Toby players, specially once their shield get the helix that lets them heal great clutch savers. Imagine my shock when I first learned that. I was basically dead and our Toby ran in, dropped a Arc mine and threw up a shield. Took me a second to see the heal icon on my HUD and I was like " Your shield heal?"
He laughed " Sure, I speced into it, looked like you needed a hand and our healers being dumb"
“Your a god among adorable Penguins!” - We won that match largely thanks to our clutch Toby player-
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Thanks, but I haven’t covered nearly enough in a neat manner,but if I wanted to I’d have to make a guide in 4 or more max text posts,then I’d have to edit them and make it appealing to the eye,then edit them some more and I probably still wouldn’t be satisfied,so,by all means, make a rookie guide if you feel like it,it would surely help to have a guide-oriented thread,not a random post. If you decide to, feel free to use whatever parts of my post you’d like. I was kinda itching to make one big guide but I’m sure there’s lots of folk who would do it better and more comprehensively with less effort so I won’t until I absolutely must
Ambra can’t outheal a Miko,but she is much more useful as a support if your team knows how to avoid damage and has less damage overall compared to the other team. The most important thing on Ambra IMO is the first helix- 16% increased damage from all sources for 4 seconds is no joke. People also tend to think that her “heal beam” helix upgrade on level 3 is weak, but when you set up a sunspot + heal with your staff you heal faster than Miko with her secondary.
From my experience as playing Ambra she heals about half that a Miko does, with moderately long matches piling up to 25k from Ambra vs 50k from Miko. But Miko’s main weakness in healing compared to Ambra is that she is useless during the times when her teams hp is topped off. Ambra can push during that time,she can also heal minions more effectively plus she DOES have a failsafe when she’s getting focused. her ultimate is also incredibly strong as you cannot simply “kill it” like Mikos mushroom. Also, remember that additional dmg = enemies/minions dying faster= less damage dealt to your team = less healing required.
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Hey, at this point if anyone has advice, i’ll listen to it, so thanks i’ll try out Miko in PvE or something, try to get used to her. Or the PvP private matches, they can help me.
ISIC’s ultimate does seem brutal, and great in PvE too. Toby does seem more useful than he appears, but ive seen some griping over his ult.
Still…i want to get good with Orendi. I love her to tiny pieces
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@_Mojo. Still the work you did was great, and considering the rampant QQing going on was a bright ray of solid posting.
That said, I suppose I have just been sadly paired with horrid Ambras, since almost every one I have had, has been garbage. Either they don’t heal or attempt to or they run off to get player kills and get murdered leaving us without any heal support. Just bad luck.
@MaliceUnchained. No problem I’m just trying to offer help where I can, but I hate sounding like an authority cause I’m not even close. Mojo has a point so I’d air towards his Ambra advice.
Isic can be a beast but takes a load of careful thinking. They tweaked him so while he’s still a tank early match you may want to be careful with what fights you take and how you engage. Come lvl five find a tank or frontline and go nuts when you push. His ultimate changes how I respond to pushes. If he has a healer and Kleese on him…Nightmare.
Tobys ultimate seems fine to me. But that could just be my good luck in matchmaking. The best ones I’ve seen use it as a kill skill. They let the tanks or ranges guys whittle down a group and come in with that mega cannon to mop up. Quad kills all day. But some have cleverly used it as a counter.
I had one tight game last week, we were being hammered and needed space to rally. Toby came in from behind lit the opposition up like the fourth of July and dropped a shield. Basically he not only turned the battle but trapped em near our turrets. Once our two tanks respawned. Myself as Rath and our Boulder we had a very easy time cleaning up. Got the push. Back and won. Ever since I just love having a solid Toby on my team’s.
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I have been playing pvp games for about 15 years now and don’t feel bad until about level 15 command rank I was getting hammered and losing all the time. Things that worked for me was dropping the controller and using the mouse on pc. Paying attention to objectives and overall map strats which takes time and comes with the levels. And understanding the other characters so when I’m not playing them I know what their strategy is in team fights. All came with getting my arse kicked. So try not to rage and hang in there
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