Actually, while i have your attentionā¦
Im going through my gear, trying to make my āOrendi Blendiā loadout, and ive remembered something that confuses me - what the hell is āCC durationā?
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Cc is crowd control. stuns, slows, silence. Etc.
Most items reduce the length of cc effects on you or boost other stats after you have been cced
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Thanks! Now i understand that, i can make better, more informed decisions on my gear 
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I actually run damage reduction after cc on almost every build. Makes you harder to kill after stuns that kill most people. They come in pretty decent green gear with health regen+ And no negatives. It makes good cheap gear for pvp for annoying tank stuns. (Gali, Bolder, Montana, kelvin stuns are all sick stuns and they almost never get the kill off me)
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Honestly, this game was like league to me.
It was meh until I found my character, after playing it for a bit the game opened up because I was better.
Thereās only 25 (26 soon) characters, just try out a bunch of them and hopefully you find one that sticks for you. That Character was Thorn for me.
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Nice work @_Mojo. Funny enough I was just writing a āRookie help guideā when one of my buddies let me know about your post. You totally beat me to it. Lol.
But On topic.
The most important thing I feel rookies never understand is that this game is decidely not āDeathmatchā never eever play it like a Team Deathmatch. Iām glad you got great advice @fenris83mc This community is great with helping folks out. Hope your experience improves soon!
Also because @Ryballs would do it anyway. The forums have a PS 4 community called āBattleborne Forumitesā itās open to all and im betting most of the users come from our little community here so check it out.
Happy gaming all!
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i am also a former destiny player. 3k hours wasted on destiny, and no exaggeration there. it is so night and day. @Misguided had great information in regards to objective play. you will CONSTANTLY see people going for player kills right away at level 1. ignore them. just clear your minion wave and wait for the next one. farm some shards, see if they gave you an opportunity to take out a buildable quickly without overextending, then prepare for that next minion wave. you are waiting for a power spike point on your character, or for them to make a mistake and overextend, whichever comes first.
This is the most important information i can share with you. thereās no instant kill crap in this game like destiny. you have to actually outplay people in this game to beat them, not just catch them distracted for a quarter of a second. pay attention to what level your opponent is before you start looking into engaging for player kills. if they are like two levels higher than you, you would be much better served to smartly lurk around clearing some waves, building, etc. to try to catch up in levels. you are almost never on a level playing field in this game in encounters due to the leveling system. that took me a very long time to adjust to. in destiny you have just as much chance to kill the other person as they do to kill you the entire time. there are always odds in this game, though
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Nice to know im not the only one! I just dont see why i should rage-quit a game i only just bought without giving myselve a chance to improve. After all this advice, my experience improved a lot, i made a new friend because we were teamed together and we communicated, and i unlocked a bunch of new characters to try.
Loving this community so far!
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And thats what we like to see. Another soul converted for the great Minreck.
Oh Also dunno if it came up before @fenris83mc but try to learn at least one Character from every class, so try to eventually have a Tank, Melee Assassin, Midrange, Support and Skirmisher under your belt. Not mastered, heavens thats hard but at least good enough that you can swap depending on your teams needs. They may not say it but having a teammate in the lobby that can swap roles is something everyone loves having.
Keep it up. 
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Yeah, im certainly going to try - thought iād try and get used to Ambra as a healer, because i dont think iād do well as Miko. ISIC seems hilarious, im trying out Toby too, andā¦well, im trying everyone really. Fun times abound!
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Ambras actually a bit harder then Miko, mostly due to her healing only stemming from her fire orbs or sunspots? I dunno for sure but I have yet to meat an ambra that heals as well as a good miko, That said word of advice if I may? Use your sunspots liberally and please put em near your tanks and melee guys first. Iāve played so many games where our Ambra either uses them Offensively only - so now I have to run into the fray, at low HP to heal- or only drops them at the bases which is pretty useless considering we have that hp station there already. I;ve seen some amazing Ambras too, but those few seem to just work at assassin or kill support. mostly building and working with the tanks to help wittle down the other guys or finish em off, so donāt overextend, she;s squishy.
Isic is a great support once he gets his ultimate. Played dozens of Isics and if you have a decent on your side you can push like nobodies business, heās also a lovely target to hide behind 
I love working with Toby players, specially once their shield get the helix that lets them heal great clutch savers. Imagine my shock when I first learned that. I was basically dead and our Toby ran in, dropped a Arc mine and threw up a shield. Took me a second to see the heal icon on my HUD and I was like " Your shield heal?"
He laughed " Sure, I speced into it, looked like you needed a hand and our healers being dumb"
āYour a god among adorable Penguins!ā - We won that match largely thanks to our clutch Toby player-
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Thanks, but I havenāt covered nearly enough in a neat manner,but if I wanted to Iād have to make a guide in 4 or more max text posts,then Iād have to edit them and make it appealing to the eye,then edit them some more and I probably still wouldnāt be satisfied,so,by all means, make a rookie guide if you feel like it,it would surely help to have a guide-oriented thread,not a random post. If you decide to, feel free to use whatever parts of my post youād like. I was kinda itching to make one big guide but Iām sure thereās lots of folk who would do it better and more comprehensively with less effort so I wonāt until I absolutely must 
Ambra canāt outheal a Miko,but she is much more useful as a support if your team knows how to avoid damage and has less damage overall compared to the other team. The most important thing on Ambra IMO is the first helix- 16% increased damage from all sources for 4 seconds is no joke. People also tend to think that her āheal beamā helix upgrade on level 3 is weak, but when you set up a sunspot + heal with your staff you heal faster than Miko with her secondary.
From my experience as playing Ambra she heals about half that a Miko does, with moderately long matches piling up to 25k from Ambra vs 50k from Miko. But Mikoās main weakness in healing compared to Ambra is that she is useless during the times when her teams hp is topped off. Ambra can push during that time,she can also heal minions more effectively plus she DOES have a failsafe when sheās getting focused. her ultimate is also incredibly strong as you cannot simply ākill itā like Mikos mushroom. Also, remember that additional dmg = enemies/minions dying faster= less damage dealt to your team = less healing required.
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Hey, at this point if anyone has advice, iāll listen to it, so thanks iāll try out Miko in PvE or something, try to get used to her. Or the PvP private matches, they can help me.
ISICās ultimate does seem brutal, and great in PvE too. Toby does seem more useful than he appears, but ive seen some griping over his ult.
Stillā¦i want to get good with Orendi. I love her to tiny pieces 
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@_Mojo. Still the work you did was great, and considering the rampant QQing going on was a bright ray of solid posting.
That said, I suppose I have just been sadly paired with horrid Ambras, since almost every one I have had, has been garbage. Either they donāt heal or attempt to or they run off to get player kills and get murdered leaving us without any heal support. Just bad luck.
@MaliceUnchained. No problem Iām just trying to offer help where I can, but I hate sounding like an authority cause Iām not even close. Mojo has a point so Iād air towards his Ambra advice.
Isic can be a beast but takes a load of careful thinking. They tweaked him so while heās still a tank early match you may want to be careful with what fights you take and how you engage. Come lvl five find a tank or frontline and go nuts when you push. His ultimate changes how I respond to pushes. If he has a healer and Kleese on himā¦Nightmare.
Tobys ultimate seems fine to me. But that could just be my good luck in matchmaking. The best ones Iāve seen use it as a kill skill. They let the tanks or ranges guys whittle down a group and come in with that mega cannon to mop up. Quad kills all day. But some have cleverly used it as a counter.
I had one tight game last week, we were being hammered and needed space to rally. Toby came in from behind lit the opposition up like the fourth of July and dropped a shield. Basically he not only turned the battle but trapped em near our turrets. Once our two tanks respawned. Myself as Rath and our Boulder we had a very easy time cleaning up. Got the push. Back and won. Ever since I just love having a solid Toby on my teamās.
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I have been playing pvp games for about 15 years now and donāt feel bad until about level 15 command rank I was getting hammered and losing all the time. Things that worked for me was dropping the controller and using the mouse on pc. Paying attention to objectives and overall map strats which takes time and comes with the levels. And understanding the other characters so when Iām not playing them I know what their strategy is in team fights. All came with getting my arse kicked. So try not to rage and hang in there
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Oh, im feeling less rage in this than in Destiny. Im quite happy just learning the cjaracters, playing sone story, and hitting PvP when i feel like it. I know OM is easy to use, but i dont want to use a character just becaise theyāre easy - i want to use a character i really enjoy, and learn to use them well. So, trial and error, play and learn
Also, i am loving how decent and supportive this community is. Itās a hell of a welcome!
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This place can shine, sometimes. This thread is a good example of why Iām proud to be part of this community. Well done, everyone.
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Group hug Hazard? Come on you know you love us. 
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Everyone gets a hug. I mean a ālikeā.
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CC - crowd control.
Anything that negativey affects your characters movement or use of abilities that another player or structure has afflicted you with such as being stunned slowed silenced (wonāt let you activate abilities) crippled (wonāt let you use movement abilities such as leaps or dashes but attacks work) rooted (canāt move but can shoot or attack. Think of a weaker stun).