PLEASE VISIT MY NEW GUIDE FOR INFORMATION ON MOZE’S COOLDOWN
The post below will no longer be updated in favor of my new guide with more accurate frame by frame analysis and formulas
I did some thorough testing to get some definitive answers to how the Topped Off Guardian perk interacts with both Grizzled and Explosive Punctuation.
These are all hand tested numbers with a stop watch, so room for error is roughly +/- 1 second. Exact numbers shouldn’t matter as this post is more about the big picture.
All tests without Topped Off were done with a Rough Rider shield for consistency, certain situations where not wearing a shield at all proved to have some cooldown issues resulting from the Respec bug.
The Respec bug for those that aren’t aware of it; If you Respec your character with a shield equipped, Topped Off will stack each time. For anyone wondering, if you don’t want to abuse this bug you can equip a Rough Rider and then Respec to avoid messing with your build. Otherwise you have to quit out of the game and reload after. To ensure none of my results are skewed in any way from this bug I quit to main menu after every Respec, gear change, and skill point spent. None of these tests had anything on except a non-anointed Rough Rider unless otherwise stated (outlier is the Loop Shield).
Keeping in mind my Guardian Rank Cooldown is -12.86%.
Here’s the Testing Results
Full Duration Iron Bear Cooldown
Loop Shield Equipped and Broken for Full Duration (Attempted)
Time Saved = 47.19s
Topped Off Full Iron Bear Cooldown
Time Saved = 66.45s
Explosive Punctuation 1/5 (constant splash dealt)
Full Duration 99.94s
Time Saved = 4.08s
Topped Off 37.09s
Time Saved = <1s
Explosive Punctuation 5/5 (constant splash dealt)
Full Duration 85.49s
Time Saved = 18.53s
Topped Off 34.98s
Time Saved = 2.59s
Grizzled 1/5 with 5 Kills
Full Duration 100.57s
Time Saved = 3.45s
Topped Off 36.68s
Time Saved = <1s
Full Duration 86.27s
Time Saved = 17.75s
Topped Off 31.27s
Time Saved = 6.3s
Full Duration 98.72s
Time Saved = 5.3s
Topped Off 36.69s
Time Saved = <1s
Grizzled 1/5 10 Kills
Full Duration 98.34s
Time Saved = 5.68s
Topped Off - Could not test 10 kills in <40s
I was going to round everything to 0.5s but I kept my original hand tested numbers here just to avoid muddying it further. With that said, Topped Off not-surprisingly does not stack with Explosive Punctuation. Surprisingly, Grizzled which is stated to subtract a number of seconds from the cooldown is also reduced.
Topped Off appears to reduce all cooldown buffs by the same amount it reduces your cooldown timer.
If you are focusing on a build that utilizes Iron Bear heavily, you’re much better off using a fast shield or getting your shield filled quickly rather than investing up to 10 points in cooldown reductions skills and wasting anointments on cooldown reduction.
If you are trying to maximize your cooldown and aren’t concerned with a few wasted points, you should take Grizzled if you can manage 2+ kills. If you can’t manage 2 kills, you’re better off still not taking Explosive Punctuation.
If you are unable to to keep your shields full for 15 to 20 seconds after exiting Iron Bear, you should consider Explosive Punctuation and Grizzled. This also goes for anyone attempting a Rough Rider build, or anyone WITHOUT TOPPED OFF.
Finally, don’t ever bother with +1 or +2 in Grizzled unless only to bypass Fire in the Skag Den for specific builds. At that point if you can, it’s better to get 3 or 4 points into the skill to actually make it do something. At 5 points it’s actually pretty good, but can easily be skipped if you would prefer Fire in the Skag Den. Explosive Punctuation is useless with less than 3 points as well, but to each their own.
Anything I missed or any questions just let me know. I’d like to state I’m not suggesting anything one way or another, you can take the information however you’d like as everyone’s builds are different. You can also test yourself, just be sure to exit to main menu after every single change to your class or gear, be warned it’s extremely tedious.
This was all done on PS4.
STAINLESS STEEL BEAR
@kabflash tested Stainless Steel Bear with an instant exit build in mind and noticed it actually adding time to his cooldown while testing it.
I tested it as well to double check and he was right.
If your build relies on instantly jumping out of Iron Bear to proc anointments and maximize cooldown put as few points in Stainless Steel Bear as possible
Here are my results from that test:
I started the timer as soon as I pressed action skill button so my times will include the enter and ejection.
Instant Eject No Points SSB
Instant Eject 1/5 SSB
Instant Eject 5/5 SSB
This appears to be a result of the ‘visual’ bug that SSB causes on your fuel bar. It seems to count as missing fuel for the cooldown.