How good is Fire Fiend?

Borderlands 2 Krieg the Psycho
#3

I don’t think accuracy bonuses affect the kind of firing pattern such as the ones from Omen or Flakker as the extra pellets position should be just an offset from the main projectile although it does make the central pellet more accurate (e.g., sniper Omen).

Reload time wise, alone it’s capable to make torgue reloads not-shi†.

I suppose the lack of popularity comes from both how close-range focused the psycho is and the popularity nervous blood.

ps.: For a melee-centric mania-hellborn it also has the utility of being one of the few ways to inflict self-ignition during rampages aswell as making the axe’s saw glow red wich is on itself almost better than Sal’s whole Brawn tree.

pps.: hellborn Omen users like @BookEmDano should probably know more about the accuracy effects on the firing pattern as I certainly don’t, given how little I shoot compared to melee.

#4

I’ve seen Jack player get a Jakobs Quad to be pinpoint precise with accuracy boost, I was wondering if the same can be done here. With Elation and Bloodlust stacks, you can also get 6-7 shots in a row from a quad…same as with Jack’s AA … is there some substance to this thinking of mine ?

#5

Nah, don’t know how to do the tests xDDD

Well, since you can set the enemies on fire, there is synergy with EE so you can get healed.

#6

@Chuck80 , i smell a deputy krieg build in the making. you can get that many shots and have high accuracy.

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#7

Accuracy barely affects the flakker.
600 stacks of anarchy and it was the same as 0.

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#8

Shoot at the dummy until you set yourself on fire, switch to a Quad, compare your reticle to before you started. With 100 bloodlust stacks and 20 stacks of elation, a Jakobs grip Quad with a mag size accessory should have a mag size big enough to shoot 6-7 times between reloads. :slight_smile:

Add some salt the wounds, BB and PiP to the mix and I’m pretty sure this is something only Athena could match.

#9

Did the tests running full Hellborn, not going Bloodlust:

made 5 videos:
1.- no com nor skill
2.- half hellborn (no flame flare) no com
3.- full hellborn
4.- legendary torch and power toast
5.- legendary torch with 8/5 flame flare

#10

Great!

Link ?

#11

uploading videos, will take a while xD

#12

Oh OK, sorry for being impatient :blush:

What’s with messing with Flame Flare ? Would it affect anything specific about my question ?

#13

longer self igniton time

Where 10/5 is considered suicidal. But if it is not suicidal, it doesn’t suits K.

#14

I mean, beside that?

It should not have an effect on Fire Fiend’s accuracy… Why did you not test different amount of Fire Fiend instead ? 5/5 vs 10/5 or 1/5 ?

#15

dunno, i try to help xD

i’m a damned noob on this stuff on testin gear xD

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#16

Yeah, and thanks for that :slight_smile:

I have played a Hellborn before but I never really paid attention to Fire Fiends accuracy bonus. Playing TPS where Jack and Nisha can make use of some truly inaccurate guns to great effect made me wonder how good an accuracy you could get out of that skill. :slight_smile:

Some guns are just unusable because they are all over the place, but could be total powerhouse if you could somehow make them shoot straight.

Anyway, can’t wait to see those videos :slight_smile:

#17

https://youtu.be/GIwgZ6BxgXg

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#18

Too bad, I can’t really tell the difference. Maybe it only boosts max accuracy ? (Which would make sense since this tree is about shooting forever)

Thanks a lot for the vids :slight_smile:

#19

It made a much bigger difference on the hellfire. Maybe it just works better with automatic weapons?

#20

Yeah, that kinda confirms that it’s a MAX accuracy boost, so not very useful for something like a Quad, but very good for auto guns with lots of recoil.

#21

Fire Fiend does have an impact on fixed spread weapons like the Omen. It tightens up the spread and degree of oscillation considerably. It’s not going to make it a crit machine but you’re going to have a lot easier time getting more bullets on target with Fire Fiend than without. Shotguns like the Butcher and Conference Call become really precise tools. Now those are the crit machines.

Where the skill shines is hip firing with weapons. The reticle bloom is reduced considerably so while all that fire and destruction is going on about you, there is less need to ADS to get bullets on target. Run it with a Slagga, Hellfire, Plasma Caster, Omen, Twister, Butcher, and Kitten and you’ll see what I mean. Better starting accuracy and less bloom at full auto.

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#22

Chuck it boosts AccuracyMin and AccuracyMax. You’ll see it with a shotty like the Butcher or Conference Call with the draw down of the reticle.

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