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i feel poor now xD

@VaultHunter101 True. Anyway, you may feel kinda envious if I post a pic of the rows and rows of wine we have in supermarkets down here xD

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YOU feel poor? My car is the one parked in the front-centre spot.

You know.

The empty one.

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We have the same car! -high five of poorness-

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Casillero del Diablo is super mass production.

Even if you’re on a budget, always go for the highest level of vintner control available.

Unfortunately, like with anything, you very often do get what you pay for. You don’t need to break the bank with wines, but it’s a lot like the restaurant business. You don’t need to go to a Michelin starred place for a great tasting meal, but there is a ceiling of spending you’ll need to break.

The tricks to finding great wine deals a lot with taking something prior to commercial valuation.

On top of that, try avoiding cash crop grapes in areas where they’re not historically yielded from. Vintners who specialize in lesser known varietals are actually slashing prices to keep up with the demand for the more well known grapes, as they’re becoming limited to a small proportion of the international market, and being wholly supported by their local one. The exception here being in such instances that the region is world famous.

(i.e. Taking anything from Friuli may be rough on the wallet, but a nice Calabrese Aglianico, (within the right climate, slightly off region and a migrated grape) may be a good idea.

Also, Hattie.

I can’t stress this enough. Small vineyards over large companies.

Yellow Tail, Casillero Del Diablo, Etc. etc. Have bloated vineyards and often source from several local places with different quality standards. Due to this, there is very little control.

A smaller place tends to have one vintner who oversees the project, and they need to competitively price themselves to remain in the market (some, not all).

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Or drink vodka.

It’s a lot simpler and you can throw juice in it without people looking at you like you just strangled a cat.

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The issue with non-aged spirits is that the entire market is based around whomsoever has the larger advertising budget.

I’d make you laugh if I told you how many people demanded Ciroc after Diddy went on board.

Attempts to enter in to the Scotch, Cognac etc. markets with that level of impunity have failed horribly.

Saddest thing is I’ve seen lovely vodkas fail in a few months time because they didn’t know how to price themselves.

I drink pinnacle because after rigorous testing, I’ve discovered that it’s the best mixing vodka under 30 dollars. I’ll put it up against schmirnoff any day of the week.

These are things you pick up with the proper college education.

Dons a pipe, leaning back in the recliner.

Why back in my day, if we needed to get ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  up for cheap, we’d mix something called hobo’s delight. Yeah that’s when you scrape 12 dollars out of the couch cushions to purchase a handle of aristocrat and two two liters of vault. That’s right, vault.

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Yeah it tasted like sin, but got the job done it did!

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I’ve also noticed this tendency to pad volume by blending grapes sourced from multiple international locations in one of the local ā€œboutiqueā€ wine chains. (Wine sales are complicated in Ontario, although that’s starting to change). This particular chain does indeed carry Yellow Tail, along with Naked Grape and a bunch of it’s founding local wineries (eg Jackson Triggs). On the other hand, if you actually drive 60-90 minutes down the road, you can easily tour a dozen vineyards and pick up some really nice wines at reasonable prices. Those vineyards may occasionally get picked up by the main wine/liquor store if they win an award or something, but wine awards are statistical crap shoots anyway.

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I’d put anything up against Schmirnoff, it’s a terrible vodka. When I drank vodka, I liked Grey Goose, but I haven’t had any in years.

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I like whiskey and I like it only a few ways, strait, rocks, or in coffee.

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After 600 unread posts, I have decided to give up and jump off of this thread

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This made me lol for some reason, thanks for the laugh. By the way someone that is truly poor couldn’t afford a high five, maybe a high three or four max…:yum:

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My uncle can only give a high 3, not because hes poor but he cut off 2 fingers while putting in a floor, he also was struck my lighting twice so it might be a shaky high 3

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Yeah I have had a few friends throughout the years missing digits, two of which lost them while I was working in a frame shop when I was younger. My buddy cut off two of his fingers at the first knuckle and the next day I came to work they were like hey your running the ban saw today… Didn’t work there too much longer because I hated doing that, I was always on edge the whole time. Lol

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I know very little about wines but I am a vodka snob. I drank an awful lot of it to survive my final year of undergrad and became proficient. Smirnoff is crap. Like Giu says about wines, smaller producers take more care and source better ingredients. Getting stuff made from potatoes rather than grains makes a real difference for me. Some of the best I ever drank was from the gift shop of an ex-royal stately home on the Isle of Wight. My favourite commercial brand is definitely Green Mark. It’s so smooth, it’s the only vodka I drink straight.

I don’t drink much whiskey but I know a lot about it as my dad is keen and I’ve been dragged round a lot of distilleries. I like really peaty stuff. Laphroaig is my favourite.

Also, to preserve my reputation I’m going to assert that I didn’t buy that wine :grin:

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No don’t leave us!!!

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I dont know ā– ā– ā– ā–  about alcohol as i very very rarely drink.

All i know is it tastes like ā– ā– ā– ā–  and makes me feel warm/shity.

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Too late for all that Hattie… Lol

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Your killing me kitty… Lol

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I’ve pretty much cut out my weekday drinking unless on vacation. I make that up by drinking 8 hours a day on weekends

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