I am "seriously concerned" not "cautiously optimistic" for Battleborn


Even though I believe all my analysis was correct and stand by it, I don’t wish to hinder the game from recovering so I have decided to remove my findings (at my own choice).

I do believe it is possible for Gearbox to make a success out of this game and wish them all the best.

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Bear in mind that Battleborn was made with esports in mind, given the MOBA elements, whereas TPS wasn’t.

Gearbox is probably hoping to attract MOBA gamers who want an FPS experience, seeing as there aren’t a lot of those in the market at the moment. The only other FPS MOBA is Gigantic, so there’s plenty of room for the genre to grow.

Also there aren’t a ton of competitive MOBAs on console, where as PC has many different shapes and sizes.

Yet we don’t have any “ranked gamemod”, hard to do anything “e-sport” without this.
But I agree on the OP… I’m checking battleborn’s players since the release and i’m worried…
Worried that I wasted 30€ on a game that’ll be dead in a month.
And no, DLC won’t make it better… Nobody would buy a game because the DLC is amazing.

Further adding to the unfortunate numbers of launch day for Battleborn is the fact that Overwatch’s public beta started that day.

None of BL1, BL2, or BL:TPS had the issue of coming on the same day as the public beta of a similar looking game that is being developed by a studio with a large following.

In fact, as recently stated in a developer Q&A session, the numbers for Battleborn have actually gone up since the end of Overwatch’s beta, indicating that it did have some effect.

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I paid $125 for my copy of BB because I believe it will succeed. Have faith my children.


I would like to point out the irony between your user name and your post :smiley:


Any word on numbers for consoles? I’m on PS4 and my personal experience has been that finding a match is actually a bit quicker/easier now that we are a bit over a week into launch.

Battleborn has too many problems.

Cartoonish style being one of them for me. The similar style in Borderlands series was not a problem for me, In fact I loved it and poured 100s of hours into each game. But I watched many videos of battleborn, and in this form it seems too much childish for me.

I have no doubts that this is exactly what we can expect from GBX

They haven’t made a FPS/MOBA hybrid before with both pve and pvp. I’m pretty sure no one has. So, yeah, it would be fair of Randy to say that he doesn’t know if people will be interested.

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I’m not concerned at all and you have yet to show me that you’re a very optimistic person, DontPanic.

Ultimately if you don’t like the game or don’t think it has a future, then don’t buy it; there are plenty of other worthwhile games out there deserving of your money. Also, I wouldn’t go solely by Steam charts. Unless you have data from all platforms, you cannot say whether or not a game is in jeopardy. So calm down and stop panicking. :stuck_out_tongue:


He is not panicking, Stop acting like a smart (bad)ass. This is a discussion topic, remember? And he has shown some real data to prove his arguments.

Steam’s data shows less and less players days after days…

I definitely believe it. In fact my own experience backs it up. Battleborn has been my number 1 most looked forward to game since Destiny’s launch and before Destiny it was my second most looked forward to game (Incidentally I’ve been playing video games for 26 years now and Destiny is the only video game that i’ve ever truly HATED and still HATE but i digress). I played the crap out of Battleborn’s open beta. Even got all the way too level 30 or so on it. I pre-ordered Battleborn a couple days before it’s may 3rd launch.

Around this time my friend andrew mentioned overwatch too me. A game that i seen others talking about but never cared enuff too look into it and see what it was about. I looked into it afterwards and found out that the open beta was around the exact same time as Battleborn’s launch (may 5th for me since i didn’t pre-order it). I played battleborn for the first 2 days but used the open beta for overwatch too decide if i wanted too get the game. I spent the extreme majority of my playtime between may 5 and may 9 on the overwatch beta. I even put 17 hours into it. When it ended though i went back too playing Battleborn.

That’s not a problem, it’s a personal preference. Borderlands 1 was criticised by some for its cartoony graphics and that turned out to be a very popular series.

Regarding numbers with the game, Jyrthri
(Creative Director) said (from the link above):

Also, in its first week Battleborn was no. 1 in the UK games charts. See this post for details:

Note that 52% of all sales on were on PS4, compared to 45% on Xbox One and 3% on PC. So even if it’s not doing so well on PC it’s doing much better on consoles.

The report, and also the report these figures are from does not indicate the source of the data. The easiest figures they would have access to would be over the counter sales provided by retailers. Digital download sales (which would account for most of Steam sales) are much harder to come buy.

Both reports do cite the source, Chart Track, and their reports are commissioned by the industry’s trade body UKIE (UK Interactive Entertainment).


“GfK Chart-Track reports are based on retail/web sales where the data is captured electronically each day via EPoS systems. GfK Chart-Track reports are based on retail/web sales where the data is captured electronically each day via EPoS systems.”


I’d guess that purchases from the PlayStation Store and Xbox Marketplace won’t be included as I don’t think these companies share their sales data.

People buying it is cool but… people playing it is better.
The amount of players on PC is ridiculous, how are we supposed to play a co-op/pvp game like this

@DontPanic Ironically your ‘serious concern’ post may put off people who are on the fence from buying the game at all, thereby creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.

There’s one of these ‘concern’ posts every few days. Last one was ‘concern’ over the game being dead when Overwatch is released.

I don’t know who you think you’re trying to help here with your concern, but it ain’t Gearbox. But if it helps you sleep at night then by all means, concern away.


I think you mean someone else