#11

I donā€™t find I need damage resistance relics. I agree with you, Bone of the Ancients is a great choice. I personally like a stockpile or Blood of the Ancients too. Never tried the double-shot chance Seraph relic with herā€¦ that might be fun.

#12

Okay, in your opinion, looking at what I have, what would you take a point from to put into scorn?

#13

Recompenseā€¦ Iā€™d redistribute all those points unless youā€™re going for a specific Recompense combat style, but thatā€™s where Iā€™d start.

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#14

I like Recompense with the Rough Rider - itā€™s one of the rewards for Maya choosing that shield for me. Even if youā€™re not going for that invincible-grog skit. As weā€™ve discussed before though it stops being useful past about OP2. I would rather have Recompense than Sustenance. When I use the RR my combat is based around taking health damage though, even though Iā€™m not holding a Grog to heal it back. I guess you could play it much more carefully, but then the Evolution might be a better choice.

#15

Immolate works just fine with Sustenance, as this video will demonstrate. Thanks @Derch ! :acmaffirmative:[quote=ā€œAdabiviak, post:10, topic:1551493ā€]
Dude - youā€™re at the bottom of the Harmony treeā€¦ a single point for Scorn while youā€™re down there is absolutely worth it.
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Do you guys s go for transfusion grenade, or something with more damage?
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With all the healing skills that Maya has, a Transfusion grenade is not necessary. Neither are any of the other Moxxi guns (If you use them for damage, then thatā€™s a different story. They kick a$$!) Quasar or Storm Front are the grenades I usually use. Quasar is great for some extra crowd control.

Most players will choose any other skill over Recompense. Some will actually spec in a completely different characters skill tree just to avoid it, but obviously not everyone. :acmtease: @hattieinduni Will we see the Landscaper in that build too, perhaps?:innocent:

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#16

Huh, Iā€™d never heard that. Evidently another way Iā€™m playing badly! :stuck_out_tongue: (I donā€™t actually think of most of my Borderlands choices as especially eccentric but apparently thatā€™s my best light). So whatā€™s wrong with it? I remember a long discussion on a thread about damage scaling on this forum with Derch and others (including testing by Ad), my summation is it maintains usefulness up to about OP2, after which it can still manage to counter enemy health regen.

I donā€™t see it as a particularly valuable combat strategy but it compliments the Rough Rider shield and, as Iā€™ve said, is a lot less wasted in a Harmony spec for that than Sustenance.

On the subject of Transfusion grenades, I would recommend having them in your backpack if youā€™re planing doing some extended work with that shield. Elated, Sweet Release and Life Tap are the beasts of health regen for Maya but there are times when none of those are going to be available (like some boss fights) and Sustenance wonā€™t give you the health you need either.

#17

I guess I failed at being funny there! Didnā€™t mean to offend you. Sorry! Itā€™s just one of my many flaws.

#18

Great info :grin: Thanks! Going off some bad intel it seems.

#19

Not at all offended! I was just worried my strategy, which is mostly personal trial and error not hivemind wisdom like many on this forum have, was wrong. In which case I must adjust my future advice!

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#20

I had another thought. If youā€™re using a Leg Binder, itā€™ll give you 10/5 in Sweet Release which could be considered overkill and some points could go into Mindā€™s Eye.

#21

Wonā€™t I need the points in sweet release to go down to the next tier? I could put those points into minds eye, instead though.

#22

Could do - canā€™t hurt. Thatā€™s what I end up doing (4/5 Mindā€™s Eye). If youā€™re going to swap out COMā€™s and donā€™t feel like re-speccing, leave it at 5/5 though.
Sorry - so much to think about, eh?

#23

Just a bit. But Iā€™m glad there are so many people on here that are willing to help.

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#24

:wink: Glad to hear that! Iā€™m known to step in it from time to time. i get carried away. Cheers!

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#25

Just curious: What about Leg Binder are you after here? Leg Siren, last I checked, has a much better buff to cooldown time and LOTS of other useful perks. If itā€™s for TEAM cooldown, and your teammates prefer that over heals, then alright. Just wondering.

#26

I donā€™t use ward, flicker, or minds eye. I donā€™t really care much for foresight. The only perk that I would like to have bonuses in would be Accelerate. Even if I respeced so I had points in minds eye, instead of sweet release. That would only be 2 perks that I want, 3 being used at all. With Leg Binder. I use all 5 abilities, so all of them are being utilized. Even thoughleg siren has the cool down, gun damage, and movement speed when phase locking. I feel like Binder would have more overall use with my character.

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#27

Cool. Makes sense. Thanks.

#28

I love the Leg Binder - 10/5 Suspension and Wreck - Iā€™ll take it just for that. I now use it more than any other :+1:

#29

I am partially using it so I can get more abilities. Like putting 1 point into suspension, and 4 into KR. And one point into SR, and four into Minds Eye.

http://bl2skills.com/siren.html#051441000041054105510505410551

I suppose it isnā€™t the perfect set up. But Iā€™m enjoying it, and it works for my play style.

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#30

Thatā€™s all that matters in the end. A reminder thoughā€¦ Keep in mind that Accelerate affects guns with splitting projectiles.

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