This board has been so negative lately.

These last few days especially.

And a lot of it by people who “love” the game.

It’s not THAT bad, you guys.

Show some love, patience and support for this amazing, misunderstood game.

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If you’re playing the game like the manner I am right now, it’s going to be hard to be singing that tune.

Since you’re here, about another topic you made today, about some new ideas or something, I don’t remember, you probably should’ve saved it until tomorrow’s Battleplan.

Because if the plan is going to be trash, you’re really going to need to those ideas and get Gearbox and community to read them.

If the plan is brilliant, then you need the positive momentum to push your ideas forward.

And I’m downloading Divinity: Original Sin 2, now finished downloading, and will be breaking the game.

@Rivaire

I do realize it must be a LOT more frustrating on PC.

I do.

I still have yet to wait more than 15 minutes for an Incursion match on PS4, and often even that time is longer than necessary because I often requeue to find a party closer to my level.

I am VERY curious as to what tomorrow will bring.

The only thing that may be extraordinary is: We’re releasing the DLC early! And we’re not ransoming it like Square Enix did with Mankind Divided in their Augment Your Pre-Order crapshow!

But like that would happen.

I really don’t know what the news tomorrow would bring, but I’m not going to be setting it too high in case they do a repeat of last week.

I laugh at a lot of things now because it’s better than crying.

And looking through Steam Greenlight really makes me appreciate everything else a lot more too.

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There’s a misconception – which I’m not saying you have, but some have – that it’s impossible to get a Versus match on PC, even during primetime. In actuality, when there’s around 300 players online, a player can still find an Incursion match within 10 minutes, or 5 minutes, if a full team of 5 is brought into the queue. That’s North American matchmaking, of course… mileage certainly varies in other regions.

The problem is you’re going to either be matched with the same 10-15 solo players, in various combinations, or the same 5-man team multiple times in a row. When players in that small, known pool start to cheat, it drives everyone to play in a hyper-aggressive manner, using only heroes that work best in such an environment.

This makes picking cloaking heroes such as Pendles and Deande a bad idea due to wallhack, which outlines cloaked players in the same way it outlines them through walls. Picking anyone with a large profile such as Kleese and Montana is a bad idea, as their size puts them at a severe disadvantage against any character using an aimbot.

So everyone narrows their picks down to heroes that gives cheaters the least advantage, such as Ghalt and Galilea with their stun-based KOs, or Ambra for her healing and escape potential, or Ernest for his ability to put absurd sentry-murdering DPS downrange. These cookie-cutter team compositions, coupled with the tunnel vision of KO-obsessed players, breed ugly matches where objectives are frequently ignored, and both teams butt heads over and over in the minion lane, always ready to pounce on the weakest gazelle when he/she is separated from the herd.

In short, you can find an Incursion match most of the time, but it will typically end up being mindless, repetitive, and dissatisfying, the same as the last ten matches before it. Sprinkle in some cheaters, and the whole experience feels terribly pointless.

Here’s to tomorrow’s changes…

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Wow.

That does sound effing frustrating indeed!

My sympathies.

@Qmzn

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People who don’t love the game don’t mind reading forums about it

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At least you understand that the report button only serves as a false security method for those that feel hurt. It helps them feel better to know that something bad might happen to the person getting reported. That’s across all games. As long as it doesn’t hurt the game economy or the way the company makes profits reporting someone in game doesn’t affect them

Honestly, this is PS4 Incursion atm as well. Last night an excellent team running Gali/Ghalt/Kleese/Ambra/Ernest with military precision pretty much had the mode locked down (keeping in mind a team of five is probably a quarter of the whole population in Oceania prime time.) the other modes were dead. So we just went to sleep. :frowning:

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You mean that team put us to sleep.

By force.

Holy moly they were good.

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One of those games where the sentry shield goes down at full, you blink, and there’s no sentry at all…

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This was my experience all night tonight. Me and my friends got hate mail a lot. I got messages from 3 different people, and they all got messages from different people. Never had this happen before but tonight made me really salty. What’s insane is that these people were always doing the worst on our team and yet still felt the need to flame us for literally anything and everything they could think of. One guy said my gamer score was lower than the opponents so that made me “less of a gamer” and therefore inferior to them. Not that GS means anything, but my XB1 account is only a few months old-- I literally got an X1 to play Battleborn, no joke. My 360 account had over 180,000 GS. He felt like a fool when I told him this. But just the nerve that these people had…

Could the toxic PC population be trickling into the X1 community? Not sure, but I tried real hard not to lose it tonight. I can’t stand negativity and hostility, especially when it is baseless and directed straight at me

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I’ve definitely encountered these problems on PC - it’s really annoying! I’m hoping for a good anti-cheat system. I know the reporting system is a work in progress. @JoeKGBX, don’t suppose you’ve got any update about that? I remember discussing it with you recently.

I will say though (and definitely not trying to deny or diminish your difficulties) that hackers aren’t ruining my own PC game experience. Like you I find matches pretty easy to find when I have a 5-man team (usually almost instant tbh) and though I do have to wait a few minutes later when I’m soloing or in a smaller team I don’t spend my life in matchmaking.

I wouldn’t say the pool of gamers always have a cheater in by any means. It’s hard to say with subtler hacks but I’ve spotted one or two people who I’d say were clearly aimbotting. I’ve never structured team comp about it. For me, though I find hackers annoying it’s much more their loss than mine - they’re cheating themselves out of proper games.

I actually think the game has a decent, friendly community. I feel really comfortable using my mic and often get treated with respect and willingness to work together - much more than can be said when DotA players hear a female voice.

Some of my games are so unbalanced it isn’t fun, and a lot are spoiled by rage quitters, but I’m getting a lot of challenging, fun matches. It makes me sad to think other players aren’t because the game is clearly capable of delivering!

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I play on PC and I haven’t run into cheaters in a long time. Last time was about 2 months ago vs a Marq. I’m just being patient and hoping for the best, 9 got faith in gearbox and I’m sure the next big patch will turn things around

What a sad tale …

I feel you, @Qmzn

/Gunz.

I really hope so too. One of the things the game needs most of all is word out there about what it has to offer as well as its faults. I already have lots to say about this and I’m not the only one, but the more Battleplan good news the better. This game really deserves a future, including on PC… in any case as it currently stands, if I divide the amount I paid by the number of hours I currently have (and there will be more) I paid about 10p per hour of entertainment, which isn’t a bad rate.

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I’ve met with someone that matches your description, and he was super duper nasty. Had to tell myself it wasn’t worth losing my cool over, but just the thought that someone like him could exist sickened me to the core. Like, really, I wanted to stab him with a butter knife. Repeatedly. Between the eyes. Wish there was something gearbox could do, or that there was some kind of blacklist/block system.

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Wow, that sounds bad. Just really abusive? I quite like to shout back with a few choice swearwords when I come up against that kind of person, but these days I try to just ignore them. ‘If you wrestle with a pig, you get dirty and the pig likes it…’

I think Flakka is worse

I’m really worried for the pc community, games die so fast on them most of the time, what especially worries me is that us console players will be ditched because of this too (they need some free weekends for PC)