I Think Gearbox Is Prolly Planning To Make Lilith Into A Future Main Villain

That’s why they saved Zarpadon from Jack’s laser-bullets first but allowed the VH’s to kill her later; because it was the journey between those two events that turned Jack into what they needed him to be, with surviving Lilith’s punch but being terribly disfigured by it and driven mad being the icing on the cake, the final and most important topping.

I’ve been supporting jack for 9 years now, before TPS.

I said “a lot” not “everyone”. And Jack didn’t even exist until BL2. And BL1 came out 6 years ago.

I know, thats how much i support him.

I just hope the GBX writers put half as much thought, effort, planning and imagination in BL3 as there is in this entire thread. I’m guessing they are at storyboard stages. Someone show them this thread damnit. Some great posts👍

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Pretty much this. The last scene with Lilith felt out of place and just thrown in there. Borderlands 3 needs better writing than that.

Agreed. I still think it would have made more sense for Lilith to at least try to kill Jack. Kinda like an on-foot drive-by, ya know? Then it would have both made Lilith more justified and made Jack seem less stupid (use of the word stupid is a for the lack of a better word) for going full on psycho if it was an assassination attempt.

Wasn’t Jack created by Antony Burch within the least 5 years since he created him after he had been hired to write for a sequel for Borderlands 1 which came out in 2009 about 6 years ago.

Well you know what they say. “If you want something done right, you need to do it yourself”. I’ll throw you a bone tho and tell you that Randy and few other relevant people have public twitters just for them you can message them on.

Hey i wanted to go ahead and post this for anyone who might possibly care. I’m still reading all the comments and at the time i was temp banned i was in the middle of trying to reply to some of the new ones that had just been posted hours before. There is actually quite a good significant amount of comments to this thread which I am intending to reply too (including a little bit of a counter-point for SpiderTeo first post). However i am trying to wait for my main account to be available again before posting too much. When i get access to my account again i intend to try to reply to a good deal of the comments on here.

Also apparently there’s a limit to how many likes you can give on this forum (or at least there are with new accounts).

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Just one tiny nitpick.

Fragtrap = Claptrap from BL 2.

Didn’t you see the ending credits? It has Jack shooting Claptrap, taking away his stair climbing wheel and then Hammerlock finding him and repairing him.

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@totocar2001

WAS Fragtrap the only one given the specialized stair climbing wheel?

It’s a plot hole. There are clappies in BL1 that climb stairs without the special wheel.

Actually claptrap just couldnt believe in himself enough to do it. He could climb stairs his whole life, but after Jack shot him, he couldn’t bring himself to do it.

Is that the real explanation? 'Cause if so, that’s a pretty dumbass plot hole.

IIRC yes.

The prison claptrap in the Knoxx DLC climbed stairs without a special wheel. It’s just a plot hole.

Still a plothole though. Why did Jack give Fragtrap a different wheel then?

No i just made that up lol.

Because it made it easier. In BL2 Claptrap really could climb stairs if he wanted to.