Ok all these posts are talking nonsense now can see im done here…
Excellent post, buddy!
Athena is a soulless, mercenary, calculating liar.
She clearly does NOT actually possess these morals she tries so hard to convince everyone she has.
Lilith sees through her, and see her for what she is.
Athena is the real villain and yet Lilith gets all the hate for attempting to stop psychopath Jack.
And would have succeeded, except the Eridians needed Jack for their own purposes in the upcoming war against their ancient enemy awakened prematurely by Vault openings.
And to quote the Slab King:
Ok, dude, I know your joking, but I really don’t like that kind of behavior and reasoning. Just because one person is in the wrong doesn’t automatically mean the other person in the right. It’s the same reason that a lot of people are Jack supporters. Just because Lilith chose to call for Athena’s execution does not suddenly make Jack right; it’s faulty logic. That kind of logic was how we got Seboist on the old forums, and your comment has too much of his flaming logic in it. Borderlands doesn’t have any good characters except pre- and post- INAC Claptrap, everyone else is different degrees of f*cked.
To be fair, all she did was punch him in the face and run away. Not really much of an attempt.
Corrected for ya!
It’s… It’s beautiful…
And this. Everyone gots a price.
If mot for the Eridians deliberately keeping him cuz they knew they would need him and his company’s resources, the ATTEMPT would have been successful!
Lilith’s no n00b, that was a damn Eridium enhanced just-coming-out-of-phasewalk flaming falcon punch!
Anyone else would have been DISINTEGRATED!
She hadn’t started using Eridium yet.
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Uh…yes…true.
Still, a very powerful punch, and one that would have been fatal if not for Eridian intervention.
You mean the floaty thing Jack was staring into slowing down her fist?
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However you want to explain it, the Eridians kept Jack from dying at Lilith’s hands because they needed him to go full on dark side and turn Hyperion into a war machine that they could use the resources of in the upcoming war against their ancient enemy.
That’s the only way i can justify the events of TPS’s ending in my head, anyway.
That’s why they saved Zarpadon from Jack’s laser-bullets first but allowed the VH’s to kill her later; because it was the journey between those two events that turned Jack into what they needed him to be, with surviving Lilith’s punch but being terribly disfigured by it and driven mad being the icing on the cake, the final and most important topping.
I’ve been supporting jack for 9 years now, before TPS.
I said “a lot” not “everyone”. And Jack didn’t even exist until BL2. And BL1 came out 6 years ago.
I know, thats how much i support him.
I just hope the GBX writers put half as much thought, effort, planning and imagination in BL3 as there is in this entire thread. I’m guessing they are at storyboard stages. Someone show them this thread damnit. Some great posts👍
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Pretty much this. The last scene with Lilith felt out of place and just thrown in there. Borderlands 3 needs better writing than that.
Agreed. I still think it would have made more sense for Lilith to at least try to kill Jack. Kinda like an on-foot drive-by, ya know? Then it would have both made Lilith more justified and made Jack seem less stupid (use of the word stupid is a for the lack of a better word) for going full on psycho if it was an assassination attempt.
Wasn’t Jack created by Antony Burch within the least 5 years since he created him after he had been hired to write for a sequel for Borderlands 1 which came out in 2009 about 6 years ago.