Not a chance. Give Montana a semi competent support of any variety and he becomes op.
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ISIC is still good, just not faceroll âlawl Iâll tank your team no problemâ anymore.
Also Montana does NOT need a buff. Give him a Reyna/Miko and he can just push right up in that base all day.
I used to promote this on the forums all the time in Open beta, but since the nerfs Iâve stopped doing it entirely and tried to focus more on teamfights. 4/5 times the enemy will notice you and kill you.
He does feel really flimsy now to me. I kinda wish they just kept the health he already had while nerfing all the things they did.
Heâs in an OK spot still, but heâs in a very Whiskey Foxtrot spot of having bad numbers but really good potential.
I can assure you that this is absolutely not the case.
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Personaly i think it is al about the player and your very own style. I love ISIC . He is amazing. I love playing him atm. But as much as i do well with him i absolute suck at Benedict or Montana or Ambra.
In my opinion it is all about practice
The shield nerf was fine but the HP nerf was too much. He went from being a tank to now being a turrent in lanes. Similarly to Toby.
-he canât tank crap
(Montana and Boldur get Dmg reduction, Kelvin generates shields with skills and is a melee tank so he pushes when he uses an ability, and Gallia can block and deal insane dps, Atticus has life steal to keep him alive)
He and Toby have the Same fate right now long ranged high dmg attacks but squishy when challenged.
-he has a huge crit hit box marquis and thorn have it so easy shooting that big easy dome of his.
-Melee opponents tear him apart with all the CC and since he relies on shields in stead of DR he gets destroyed because the shields are so weak now.
-energy shields block strength is low (made sense when his wards were strong) Now he canât tank well since he wards drop so quick and blocking 1000 is too low.
Everyone is saying he is a range tank, but you know who else is a range tank? Montana. He shoots a minigun but he is in the front line Disrupting people to attack him and with all the DR he has he can tank well on his own.
He is all about timing your shields and teleports, and he also has the most overpowered super of them all with a never ending ult which pisses me off when no one on the team really has any stuns until late in the game
Yea ISICs crit spot is HUGE i think its his whole face plate or at least it was. I can put down an ISIC with Mellka with one reload just aim and pull.
1000 shield is standard everyone who has a shield is 1000 and it can be upgraded to 2000
The health was harsh but his wards needed it.
Kelvin, atticus and boldur all have similar size crit spots as well.
Kelvin/Atticus have life steal and Boulder has insane health regen - Isic has to run away like a ***** as soon as his shield/wards drop.
Even then with certain items that is no problem, also with his reflective damage would probably kill the guy who is killing him, and his teleport stuns his enemies or teleports him out of danger for a reason
Well if i do 1000 damage (isic shield) to kelvin and att they run too.
Plus att life steal is very little has most will get the increase damage rather than life steal from punches
No his wards used to be useful in getting a OM/Montana to kill themselves in panic then they would go cry about it so they got nerfed into uselessness. You canât use plasma dash ever because if any melee toon runs up on you its the only way you can get away alive. His wards let him push but not anymore.
His wards still take more damage than todys shield
They used just make so you couldnt/shouldnt attack isic while they were up.
Now people just cry that they not unkillable everytime they pop their wards.
And? Gearboxâs response to âhis shields killed meâ should have been - count to five, theyâre gone now go kill him. I learned aster 1-2 matches that orange wards meant to stop shooting and duck behind something for a few seconds.
His aegis is *** and slows him to a crawl as you pray a teammate does something to you can drop it and actually run away.
5 seconds not attacking while he attacking you sounds fair.
His wards are still better than tody shield.
His shield slows him down well yeah you dont get to block an extra 1000 or 2000 extra with no side sides
Kelvins lifesteal is pathetic, as is his regen.
None of that is going to keep you alive if 2 people look at you wrong. ISIC doesnât have to put himself in dangerous/extended positions to do his job effectively. Atticus and Kelvin do and they donât have the luxury of holding up a 1000 point shield if things go sideways.
Boo hoo something gave someone an advantage over 1/3 of the characters for a few seconds, rath can insta murder with his super, phoebe gets stupid high attack speed, Montana turns into a literal iron man. Most toons have a thing that makes you say âoh **** I should back offâ. OMâs grenade shows up as 4-500 damage instantly and dropped all of his wards, in fact any AOE skill did that.
His wards used block 1000 damage from level 1 unless you had an aoe.
They are still better than tody skill even with the nerf
Rath ult is probably going to get nerfs and never had a problem with pheobe.
Montana res damage so he still takes damage isic doesnt allowing he shield to go back up. They just as good if not better.
Imo ISIC shouldnât even NEED a shield he should rely on wards to keep him going.