#1

I am really happy about the damage buff. The Nuke and "Specialist Bear"are great . I have so much fun using dual nuke right now. Thanks Gearbox.

But survivability…
Badass Rocket Launcher enemies can easily destroy IronBear.
Anointed enemies can easily wrecked IronBear as well.
Railgun, Flamethrower, Chemical Warfare can not benefit from Vampyr.
Please buff IB’s health and make all IronBear weapons benefit from Vampyr, not just splash damage.

I hope Gearbox will fix Iron Bear survivability as soon as possible.
It is a giant mech. Not a glass cannon.

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#2

I know it’s pretty bad … but with the nukes I dont think I die anymore because the blast radius hits so many enemies at once, but even with dual explosive miniguns I die so easily.

God help you if enemies have the x2 per shot modifier too

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#3

This is why I proposed that Force Feedback should auto Renew IB shield on enemy kill. So there’s a way for Railguns to survive

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#4

That would be AWESOME. Fantastic idea !!

#5

Also if we can have something like

“on IB exit, be immune for 3 to 5 seconds”
or

“make that shield impregnable for 3 to 5 seconds”

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#6

some immune phases on exiting ironbear would be nice.
But i’m doubtful they’d improve iron bear survivability to the extent he could tank anointeds and rocket launcher enemies.
Those are the things that can insta kill everything.

If they did that what would be next, making barrels of random substance not be ultimate weapons of mass destruction?

I may be wrong but I think rpgs can one shot tanks in real life too, or maybe that was just the case for the old ones.

#7

Not sure what you mean by this. But Iron Bear can already very easily do that.

#8

well if that’s the case there really isn’t a reason for this topic.
But of course I don’t invest in iron bear so it’s nothing like that for me.

#9

I mean, TVHM M4, with 5/5 Vampyr and splash weapons on the hardpoints make IB fairly resilient. I have been one shot out of IB a couple times, with ~175k IB health. But that’s fairly rare.

I’m not saying the current system is ideal, but you should be able to stay in IB for the full duration most of the time as is.

#10

What platform are you on? I have 5/5 in Vampyre and often times die quicker than my dual explosive miniguns can heal. Its stressful

Thankfully the nukes are GREAT for healing because they touch so many enemies at once

#11

PC. Exploding Bullets is worse at healing in high pressure situations then Vanquishers or Sabots. That’s precisely why I’ve always said Vanquishers are better then EB, aside from also having better burst.

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#12

Vanquisher is definitely better for Vampyr. I’ve heard anecdotes about the grenade launcher being better for Vampyr, but I’m hesitant to go that route given the significantly less damage… at least last I checked.

#13

All I ever used before the first major IB buff were vanquishers because back then they were literally the only remotely viable IB weapon. After the first buff for IB I was so excited to use something else I’ve gotten used to exploding bullets .

Now with the latest batch and me being burned out with exploding bullets I’ve switched over to nukes.

#14

I’ve been doing one nuke, one vanquisher pod. That way I can maintain Vampyr health regen, and still maintain specialist Bear bonus, and use the nuke for fun.

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#15

“Security Bear” can tank Rocket Launcher enemies pretty well. I forgot they buffed this skill that
bubble now has half the health of Iron bear instead of Moze health. It isn’t that great before the buff. Now I need to take this skill now. I also heard that Band of Sitorak shield is good for bolstering Iron Bear’s health in spite of low capacity.

#16

Yes, that’s exactly what I mean. Iron Bear should be able to tank enemies longer even if you don’t invest too much to Iron Bear itself. (because it is a giant mech, not a glass cannon.) So…Gearbox, please buff IB’s base health. Thank you.

#17

Yeah Security Bear is pretty dang good now. It provides much needed breathing room to fill back up in times of heavy damage intake. Band of Sitorak at it’s baseline doesn’t do anything for Iron Bear but it can come with +maxhealth rolls, even multi-vitamin.

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#18

Could always double spawn IB with a 75% health shield on. Summon it, jump out right away triggering the annoit. Then summon again before extra health wears off. IB gets the bonus.

#19

IB sure has some survivability issues, but changing Vampyr to “whenever splash damage is dealt” wouldn’t just help Moze but also IB as it would allow him to heal off of the grenades spawned by the “While Iron Bear is active, taking damage has 20% chance to spawn a grenade.” anointment.

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