#13

Oh snap. This is wonderful news!

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#14

Cub and Auto Bear have a very similar formula. Cub however does get DiB, which AB doesn’t. DiB fits as type B like it does for Iron Bear. Cub also gets Really big guns and feature creep which add together in their own new category, though again auto bear doesn’t get this multiplier.
The base damage penalty to Cub is 70%.

Oh and lastly Cub doesn’t have any damage mults counting twice like Iron Bear does. Though the bugged state of SSB is an exact mirror of what Iron Bear had a couple months ago which eventually led to the doubled damage multipliers.

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#15

Both work with IC but i think Vampyr is bugged just like IB+vampyr is.

@Prismatic what about the Flare CM bonus, does it has its own spot in the IC’ formula?

#16

Yes it does.

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#17

Anyone else having issues with AB while Iron Cub is using it with certain weapons? For example, Cub will just stand idle and not shoot for the duration of AC when equipped with Miniguns.

Also, would wish they would make Cub immune to self damage with its exploding. bullets. For the minigun upgrade. He shreds with this…including himself lol. Just see him die in like 2 shots even with a bunch of armor. Makes this augment absolutely worthless when instead, could be quite good.

#18

That’s just how Moze works. Can’t have any fun without the risk of one shotting yourself. IB and IC included.

#19

Auto Bear and Iron Cub??

IC stays deployed for the 15 seconds but I am not sure it’s shooting anything…

#20

I think it depends on the hardpoints. It never seems to use the miniguns, but it will shoot the active tracking rockets. It is a bit of a point waste though because it doesn’t really help much with IC’s own cooldown, or blows itself up and doesn’t activate.

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#21

I changed to a Flare and dual Corrosive Sabots and Auto Bear was actually targeting and killing things in that 15 Seconds…fairly nicely.

I Also pretty much stayed out of purple tree all together except for 3 in Big Surplus and a few in Really Big Guns.

Went the traditional way to get IB Damage and it seemed more effective than going Purple.

With very little difference in cooldown or IC total deployment time.

The dual Corrosive Sabots wrecked and I did not have to worry about self damage.

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#22

I actually prefer using the hammerdown protocol with iron bear and cub. Watching that little guy run around nuking everything is very satisfying. And the nukes won’t do self damage so he’ll stay out the whole time.

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#23

The problem with hammerdown protocol is that a lot of times the nukes hit the ground in front of him when using Iron Cub. With Iron Bear its fine though.

Railguns are definitely the best weapons Iron Cub or Iron Bear weapons.

#24

I want to farm up a 100% Railgun Damage anoint but what equipment can have that anoint??

Guns Only?
Shields Only

#25

Guns. Would recommend a Dark Army if you’re piloting Iron Bear so that the little drones can aid a bit (SMG damage boosts and U-Rad can actually make them fairly decent.)

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#26

+1 to dark army. Using the green monster and some cloning hunter seekers, I made a no shooting drone/pet commander build. Fun.

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#27

Wait…

A guy just sent me a Gas Mask Shield with the 100% additional Rail Gun Damage.

Semi friend…don’t know him that well.

Is this a modded piece of gear??

#28

Yep. Shields don’t spawn with that anointment.

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#29

Sounds like it. As far as I know that can only spawn on weapons.

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#30

Is there a list somewhere of what anoints can spawn on what equipment.

I send stuff to people all the time and I get sent a lot of stuff but I never really check it.

I probably should take a look at my gear. I might have some other stuff in there with crazy annoints.

I just don’t pay that much attention to it. @Prismatic Prismatic helped me understand about parts and what to look for so you can spot that wild stuff usually pretty quickly.

But anoints?

No clue.

#31

Try here. They have it organized by character classes and item types. I do not think it is up to date with the latest batch of anointments, but as far as I know, the new anointments for Moze only appear on weapons. (100% weapon damage when cub is active and 100% damage increase to mech weapons).

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#32

There should be some up to date lists at mentalmars.com or check lootlemon.