It needs to be said again how obnoxious nerfs are

The game is balanced right now?

its more balanced than it was before the patch

Builds have more to do with skill trees,action skills,coms and artifacts,not one stupid weapon that I may have been using as a crutch because of the lack of a broken action skill,and under perfoming skills or non working trees,this update has either exposed problems and or not fixxed pre existing ones,you can’t tell me any stability issues have been taken care of with all these people complaining about getting blue screened or freezing up,For now i’ll play Amara because it seems she has the least wrong with her and play with shotguns snipers and a 2 pushed apon ar’s all of which i cant stand

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Really? You think so? Wow.

ofc
stability problems also have nothing to do with balance
i am pretty safe with my pc and i got no problems but i agree that this should be the main focus of patches until everyone can play without problems

ofc, skills and coms also have to do with build variety
talking about seeing dead or rushin offensive
but as already mentioned
when a weapon deals 3 times the damage of any other weapon, there isnt much “choice” left

The problem is that if you have guns that are underperforming the answer isn’t to drag guns that feel good down to the level of the pathetic weapons.

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that also wasnt happening
the kaoson was dragged to a level where it feels decent, yet not ridiculous and baby mode
and it gives a good example of what a base line of power should look like

the nerf to YC though, i don’t know why some people say YC still as good as before. I certainly felt the nerf on the YC hard… lol

you probably felt it hard because the power creep was very hard before

probably, but honestly i enjoyed it lol. I loved it… now i don’t love it as much =(

i mean, it totally understand those “feelings”
i just dont share them
to me it felt like “oh well, guess we will all just run around with the same 4 weapons now and 1 shot content, seems lame”

well YC is a heavy launcher i mean, it felt right to me before LOL…

But i understand everyone enjoys BL differently, thats all good and cool. I just wish Dev stop nerfing weapon, instead make the not so cool weapon better…

they actually did buff more weapons than they nerfed in total
people just dont really recognize as long as they can stick to their OP goodies
some weapons were even buffed into a similar ridiculous state like the LOB f.e.

I actually find this whole mess hilarious!. Gearbox have got themselves into what I call the “Infinite Balance Treadmill” and they can’t get off lol.
Let me explain, English not first language so bare with me. The foundational philosophy of Borderlands 3 is this game shall NOT be fun or enjoyable, it MUST be challenge and extremely difficult so we don’t upset the hardcore Elites…but we don’t want to alienate the casuals, so what to do?, we create OP weapons for a brief while to give hope, then we nerf them because players are enjoying the game and beating the bosses. (having fun in a game is taboo!)

But now we have dilemma, the Elites are wild angry cause these OP gear is making game easy, and they complain and complain, so GBX listens, and nerfs everything in the name of “balance”, so game becomes much too difficult, even for Elites, so what to do?..we create another batch of OP weapons and gear, BUT we never test them properly, and they are too powerful, and the voice of Elites gets too annoying again, so we nerf again to please them…game once again becomes stupid hard, so we give another batch of OP weapon to balance the hardness…and on and on and on it goes

I almost feel sorry for Gearbox as you can’t beat the treadmill they created for themselves
I not try to be disrespectful but has anyone told Gearbox that nerfs are not necessary?, because it is not a competitive online game, so there’s no need to nerf this game at all…Balance is just a buzzword as an excuse to bring in nerfs, but nerfs only destroy a game, it takes away players fun.
If elites find weapons too Op, I have solution for them, use another weapon, and stop crying!

what’s wrong with actually having fun with games and enjoying them?, is this foreign concept now, no?

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i dont see those 2 things excluding each other

Those 2 things are mutual opposites when applied to BL3 as Gearbox has no idea whatsoever in how to balance their games, Borderlands 1 being exception here
If we talk about other games, then yes, balance and challenge can coexist togetherr

i am having fun with the current difficulty level^^
just not with the randomness of modifiers xD

You play on Mayhem 10, no?

yea, sure

The Kaoson wasn’t a one shot weapon. Hell the worst offender after the Yellowcake was the OPQ which they left standing. The Yellowcake was obviously an abusive weapons. The OPQ with the proper annoints is similarly stupid good. The Kaosan was not in that realm.

If they’d nerfed the Yellowcake to get rid of the bug and took the Kaoson and OPQ down by the same amount as the decrease in enemy health that would be reasonable. The problem was that they decided to not touch the OPQ and to reduce the Kaosan across 3 different metrics that put it below the health scaling decrease is a problem. Then they managed to not really buff any weapons in any meaningful way while they persisted in their quest to make us all slide and jump.

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