#19

I really don’t care about balancing HW1 vs. HW2 right now. I couldn’t really care less about multiplayer. I want to see HW1C’s mechanics restored to the greatest extent that they can be to give HW1R as much of HW1C’s tactical complexity as possible.

Once that’s done, then Gearbox can worry about balancing multiplayer.

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#20

I am going to speak blasphemy here.

It is not the singleplayer that is going to last (although it deserves to), it is the multiplayer that will keep Remastered alive throughout the years, so that is what their focus is. (All speculation by me)

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#21

I’d like your post twice if I could.

#22

And consensus is that HW1’s multiplayer was far superior to HW2’s. No matter which you think to be more important, a gameplay rework is needed. A rebalance won’t cut it.

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#23

I agree with you completely.

#24

We have Homeworld 2 and Homeworld running on the same engine. That may not be what some people wanted but that’s what we got and it’s better than the alternative of having nothing.

With that being the case the goal should be to make both of them play the best they can. Obviously there should be an effort put to keeping both games as close to their classic versions as possible but at the end of the day the goal of all games is to be fun. If a minor tweak to one game allows another to play more like it did and make the whole experience more fun for everyone then that’s fine.

Having the HW vs. HW2 argument is pointless. There is no HW and HW2, there is only HW:RM.

#25

I’m all for HW1 feature “fixing”, but after it’s fixed nerf/buff the HW1 races based on the HW2 balance. Fit these 2 new races into the already existing meta, and we’ll all be happy.

#26

Seriously? Why is it okay to break some races in multiplayer but not others, when the consensus on the forums is that the better gameplay was found in the classic implementation of the currently broken race?

#27

We’ve been over this, the vocal minority, anywhere, is not indicative of actual player populations. The HW1 players feel shortchanged so they are the most vocal, thus they feel they are in the majority. Please stop with this ‘the majority of the forum shares MY opinion so you have to listen to me’ BS you’re pulling EVERYWHERE. Even trying to strong arm devs with it, it’s funny(not here, in another thread).

#28

If you want to play Homeworld 1, it’s included in the bundle.

#29

Balancing the game for multiplayer while stuffing up the single player will ruin these games. Games have to be as close to the originals possible. Original SINGLEPLAYER campaigns. The games those days focused on single player experience. Fixing the balance may make them multiplayer friendly but the campaigns may no longer be FUN!

#30

Ease up on the drama there, please. Calmness is required.

#31

But multiplayer for the original games has been disabled.

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#32

The balance changes will for the most part be seperate from SP to MP. They have put a mechanic in place to do that. Mechanic or engine changes that aim to bring HW1:R closer to the original will obviously be implemented in both MP and SP. Check these threads for more info HW1/HW2 - Code/Engine changes discussion and Future MP:Beta Patches!

#33

I agree HW1 gameplay is far superior to HW2. It’s the reason I stopped playing HW2 and just modded (modeled). So, why not Fix HW1 shortcomings and balance HW2 to HW1 instead of the other way around or messing them both up while attempting to change both. People can present all the arguments they want opposing this but the fact is HW2 was a bomb for diversified strategies compared to HW1.

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#34

I’m not even posting much about balance anymore because that double standard is pissing me off, and I will eventually get angry and trash talk about that hypocrisy and selfish behavior and psychichazard will suspend me lol.

And quit that “vocal minority” fallacy, you have no data or even a small evidence to say who is minority or majority, actually all evidences shows that hw1 balance were more successful. And population? What are you even talking about? There is no population, Mp is dead already, you pretty much only see online the players that are posting here.

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#35

Meh, it’s a lot easier balancing a game when there’s only one race.

#36

And quit that “vocal minority” fallacy, you have no data or even a small
evidence to say who is minority or majority, actually all evidences
shows that hw1 balance were more successful.

What evidence?

#37

So…They got lazy?

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