#23

Well i started the Empress Lenore conspiracy theory back in nov 2015, which turned out to be Deande as who wasn’t announced at that time.

btw. Great research

And @lowlines mouse & keyboard are so OP to get some Badass art out there :wink:

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#25

Love this thread, provides a lot of background and story info that I was never aware of.

Mainly because I have never looked at the lore, time constraints abound.

#26

Your involvement makes anything I do seem trivial. I only really got into it after the game came out, I’m still a filthy noob. :wink:

I haven’t used a mouse in nearly 2 years… It’s all trackpad for me! I can do some arty things, but my canvas is mostly made with 1s and 0s, which is where I like it XD

Seriously though, the next thing I am going to work on once I get my Character Builder/Gear Skills project working to a point where I am happy with it, is going to be compiling a proper unofficial Lore Bible! I have nearly unlocked all the character Lore myself and there is stacks of little nuggets littered across gear and the characters themselves. The more the idea rolls around in my head the more I want to do it as I think I could put together something really cool with an interactive element to it. That and I just really want to piece it all together myself! :smiley:

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#27

@Nemosis327 Btw, something I picked up while building my Character Builder. I believe the internal names for some of Deande’s abilities are referred to as “Void Walking”. :sunglasses:

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Okay I just checked. So her Holotwin Action Skill is internally called “VoidWalk”, whether this is pure coincidence or that whatever technology is behind that ability is how Deande is actually able to cross into the Void to speak with Lenore :wink:

#28

Really enjoyed reading through this thread, and it prompted me to go read up more on the lore behind Battleborn. Suddenly the game makes much more sense and it has allowed me to appreciate and fall in love with the game so much more. I think the devs can really work on making some of the lore more explicit.

Regarding the debate about what happened to Lenore when Rendain took over her battlecruiser: https://battleborn.com/en/news/view/en-the-jennerit-imperium/
This post says, “Rendain led a coup on the throneworld of Jennar, resulting in the Darkening of the planet and everyone on it—including the Empress Lenore.”

So we know definitively that she’s in the void. I would agree with Nemosis327 here, most of the battleborn don’t know what exactly the void is, so they think both Lenore and Rendain are ‘dead’. But future DLC might reveal more about the void and whether there’s a possibility of them returning.

On a side note, came across this image here: http://i.imgur.com/MEjc5pl.jpg (from this thread New Character Cameo In Gamespot Video Review?)

We know the characters are arranged alphabetically, and the first empty locked portrait could be Ernest. The third one is possibly Pendles. The locked blank portrait of interest is the 2nd one, between Kleese and Melka, which means one of the DLC characters could have a name starting with a K, L or M.

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#29

[quote=“loonacy, post:28, topic:1544582, full:true”]We know the characters are arranged alphabetically, and the first empty locked portrait could be Ernest. The third one is possibly Pendles. The locked portrait of interest is the 2nd one, between Kleese and Melka, which means one of the DLC characters has a name starting with a K, L or M.
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The fact that the first DLC character was Alani casts some doubt on the veracity of that theory. The first unlocked character is Caldarius and the first locked character is Ambra; in either case, that should have been Alani if all 5 of the DLC characters were in that list with their current names. I would be kind of surprised if the last 4 DLC snuck into that list but the first one didn’t.

#30

I’d admit it’s curious Alani isn’t in that selection. What do you think the empty locked portraits represent, though?

#31

I agree with you that it’s most likely blanked out DLC characters. What I’m contesting is that you can actually guess who the characters are based upon where their name lands in the alphabetical order because of Alani not being represented. Presumably, Alani’s name changed at some point between that review and her release; she might be that character in the KLM slot (maybe her name was originally “Lalani”) and/or the KLM slot has had their name changed in the interim.

Of course, it could very well be that you’re entirely right and the function that created the character list didn’t start grabbing until a character slot was occupied (and then grabbed all slots after).

Regardless, it casts some doubt.

#32

Could work for Lenore or Magna Carta (a current theory if the LLC one isn’t Nova.) Or it also could be… Kleese, Jr.! I think that’d be pretty funny if the LLC robot was one who idolized Kleese and decided he wanted the cantankerous old goat to be his daddy.

This also makes sense. Character names might change pretty frequently during the design process. Who knows how long it took Bombirdier to become Ernest?

Sure, and we’ll never know until we know. But in the meantime, speculatin’ sure is fun!

#33

Fair enough, given it’s a really old random screenshot, nothing’s for certain. But I do think Ernest and Pendles fit into the other blank portraits, so my hopes are up for KLM! And I never said the L could/should be Lenore; personally I think Lenore should remain a key NPC figure and not part of the playable Battleborn team.

Thumbs up for a Lenore-esc type successor and Kleese Jr.! :joy:

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#34

[quote=“CharacterIV, post:32, topic:1544582, full:true”]Could work for Lenore or Magna Carta (a current theory if the LLC one isn’t Nova.) Or it also could be… Kleese, Jr.! I think that’d be pretty funny if the LLC robot was one who idolized Kleese and decided he wanted the cantankerous old goat to be his daddy.
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I’ve been vacillating on whether I think it’s Nova for a while now, ever since jythri gave a “no comment” in one stream followed by a “we never expected Nova to be as popular as she is” in one immediately after. “No comment” from game devs has tended to mean “you’re right but marketing won’t let me say anything” most of the time, in my experience. The second comment I’m kind of leery about because the robot suit comment is a bit explicit and Nova has some really good dialogue such that I kinda doubt they didn’t expect people to love her.

I do like the idea of Magna Carta as a character, though it would be strange to get it without some kind of a mission integrated (as with ISIC).

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#35

Wow. Looking at the spaces in that screenshot, and guessing on names based on starting letter…that’s very attentive and clever. :slight_smile:

In my fine habit of teases, I’ll crush one rumor and crank up another!

CRUSHED! - The empty slots there are indeed based on internal temp names for the empty portrait characters, and not their final names.

CRANKED! - B and KU

Enjoy!

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#36

Hmmm… B for Bombirdier doesn’t necessarily match, then, right? Shouldn’t he be between Boldur and Deande, then?

KU? That’d fit after Kleese… I wonder if “ku” is the first two letters of the name/development name, or an acronym?

#37

[quote=“Jythri, post:35, topic:1544582, full:true”]CRANKED! - B and KU
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I am deeply and profoundly confused by this.

#38

Nah, it can’t be an acronym, cuz it’s specifically after Kleese. I’m thinking Pendles had a different name. B is interesting. As you said, it can’t be Bombirdier.

#39

I’m assuming you know what he meant, but you may not, so jic those were older names that were scrpapped. Ku are the first two letters of a scrapped name. I am pretty sure you just meant that you don’t know what those names could be though.

#40

My initial thought was that “B” was for Bombirdier, to give us a baseline for translating what “KU” may be.

But on that image, the “B” slot for Bombirdier wouldn’t match. It would be where Boldur and Deande are, but the one blank slot is there for “Ernest” after “El Dragon.”

I am going to conclude, based on absolutely zero evidence, that “KU” is “Kleese Underscore (Junior)” (Because “Kleese_Jr” would be how a robot would identify himself) and that my wild assumption about the LLC character being a robot who wants Kleese to be his father is 100% valid and correct! I rule!

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#41

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I cant help but think there is some sort of connection. while it may not have made it into the full game, maybe Deande’s holotwin was originally intended to function like the void walkers and their annoying blurry bubble thing that always causes me to fail the challenges requiring me to kill them. Or maybe some other completely different varelsi-esc type affect. Like teleporting around the map through the void. Kinda like Phasewalk (see the resemblance in names?).

despite what “Voidwalk” might have initially meant during development, I can’t find any solid relation in the between Deande “voidwalking”. if you classify the voidwalker’s fizzy bubble as a skill, then it is very different from holotwin. They don’t seem to have anything in common in the full release of the game.

But that’s not to say that Deande’s holotwin couldn’t have been rigged up by Lenore using some Varelsi tech. But I really have no idea as I couldn’t find anything what so ever that taked about the holotwin’s inner workings

#42

Glad I could do something useful for you and all the other people who enjoy this thread. Maybe when we get more actual information ill throw together a fan fic story for Lenore to serve as an update (or I could update this post as well). I already have some ideas for her type of character here and would love to be able to write more creative stuff on her.