Nope, nothing in the Battleplan. I’ll be calling about getting a refund tonight. What’s the point of even having this thread if they aren’t going to listen to – or even acknowledge – the feedback they’ve asked for?
No but there is a response in a post in that thread:
If that timescale isn’t good enough (and it isn’t to some people) then I’d suggest you say so in that thread rather than attempting to get a refund. They know things aren’t working, it’d be premature to jack in the game now when things might change next week or even sooner with enough pressure from users.
I disagree. They knew going into this that it was going to be unpopular. When they tried it in the open beta it only lasted a single day or less. If they think it’s acceptable to make game-breaking changes and then leave them and not even mention them for two weeks at a time then I don’t really think it’s worth bothering with anymore.
Also, it says HOPEFULLY there will be more INFO next week. Not hopefully a fix, not definitely some information. Just that by next week they won’t have done anything but maybe they can tell us something.
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All of this is true. I’m really upset about the actions of these people. It feels to me like they are actively trying to kill off their game.
I’ve heard things like they are looking at the data and will make decisions based on the information… it is ridiculous. They are watching their numbers drop and aren’t going to pull up until there is nothing but wreckage left.
You know how some people are too cowardly to actually dump the person they are dating so they purposely try to mess things up? It feels to me like Gearbox wants to breakup but doesn’t want to be the one to tell us it’s over.
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Arguably they didn’t, there’s at least once thread asking for a mixed mode players.
Anyway if you don’t wish to pursue this and want a refund then that’s your prerogative. I shall be sticking with the game as I enjoy it so much and can bear to stick with the current matchmaking until they sort this.
Just seen this:
It’s not arguable. You can tell by the tone of the original post that they didn’t think it would be popular but that they wanted us to try it and see. They also already tried it once during the open beta and their Twitter blew up with people saying they didn’t like it.
Also, a randomized queue is stupid. People who wanted one could already just pick a queue at random.
It was never about randomness but about decreasing waiting times.
They knew it would be unpopular with many, but they also knew it was one of the few ways to effectively reduce waiting times on PC (the platform that’s suffering the most), by joining most of the playerbase in one queue as opposed to three. On that end, it did work (on the Casual mode anyway), but ultimately the cons it created have been almost as bad.
I can’t blame them for trying changes and then recognizing said things didn’t work.
Ultimately I’m sorta glad the change is being rolled back even if I had no personal issues with the new system, if only because it was rather uncomfortable to be playing with people that were clearly annoyed at being stuck in a mode they didn’t want.
I’ll miss the faster queue times though… really hoping they loosen up that ELO range, since it’s not like a tight one results in balanced games anyway.
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I expect to fight teams on competitive and that’s fine i just hate it when I pick casual and all I fight is full teams just picking casual to destroy a group of random people not on a coordinated team.
There’s a few (actually quite a few) topics on this which all have a common theme. Yes there’s a few full pre-mades doing just that, but there’s a few of us who are casual players who have been put up against a hell of a 5 man solo group and I’ve been on the other end of it kicking the crap out of a full 5 man group while playing with 4 other solos. So there are full pre-mades that are legitimately casual players. They made be good, but not “try hard” as people like to put it.
Unfortunately I see a few weeks of this before a system is put in place that balances this out.
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I know that it was never about the randomness, but that’s what they turned it into, knowing that it wasn’t going to be popular.
At any rate, the queue times aren’t noticeably faster, and didn’t need to be on PS4 at least. They are noticeably SLOWER, however, in both Spotlight and Competitive. I’ve barely been able to get Spotlight to work when I’m not alone, and haven’t been able to play in Competitive at all because of the long wait times. People are complaining about full teams of high ranking players in the Casual queue, claiming that the only reason that they’re there is to beat up on randoms, but I can tell you that most of the time that probably isn’t the case. I know that I personally am not willing to wait over 20 minutes in the Competitive queue just so that people in the Casual queue don’t have to worry about playing against players that match their skill level.
Yeah, most every console player has mentioned how the issue of long queue times wasn’t a thing for them, so I can understand why the frustration is higher for you people. Makes you wonder why the change wasn’t applied exclusively to PC (assuming it’s feasible to do such thing, don’t see why not but hey, I’m not a dev).
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It’s not even just that the long wait times weren’t an issue before, it’s that they now ARE an issue in most playlists. It didn’t just screw up the ability to choose a gametype, it actually created the issue that it was meant to alleviate, in addition to completely killing the rest of the experience. It’s insane.
It was very disheartening to see nothing in the Battleplan today. It now seems we are going to go into another weekend with no matchmaking and more reasons for people to just stop playing. You have those hard numbers of queue times and logouts, but I don’t think I’m being the typical forum drama queen there, I’ve seen the people leaving.
It appears nearly unanimous that people would be happier with the old system back, even the defenders to me seem halfhearted…probably because it is difficult to defend hour(s) of queue times or giving up matchmaking completely for no reason or benefit that can be figured out by us mortals. And with an admission it’s NOT working out taking stubbornness out of the mix… it seems like we could have had a rollback, a date for a rollback, or some alternate proposal by now.
Matchmaking is getting some changes tomorrow. The Battleplan will be updated to reflect that around the time the changes go live. I think around the same time there will be another post about the updates as well.
Someone linked that post in this thread already, guess it’s worth re-linking so others are aware.
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Thanks Martok, my wife and I only like capture I’ve tried incursion over and over and it wouldn’t be so bad but if it gets voted twice that’s over an hour of playing what we don’t want… I love the game I just want to pick more desperately
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Please let us play the way we want. Please allow us to choose whatever map we want on whatever mode we want to play in. You took 1 step forward when you disabled ELO a few weeks ago but fell 2 steps back creating Competitive mode causing super long queues again. On top of that we can’t even choose the map we want to play in. It basically comes down to rolling the dice and hoping you get the map.
If you’d been paying attention to the Battleplan thread for this week you’d already know that matchmaking will see some changes sometime tomorrow. Tomorrow you can also keep a look out for a post from Joe or Jythri regarding the changes.
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