Let's talk about the ivf

Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel BL: TPS Loot and Weapons Chat
#21

It was in Bl1 so I say it is dammit!

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#22

I donā€™t think there were relics in BL2 that boosted grenade damage.

Anyways, the greatest boost to an element from a duality kit is 54% (explosive duality), followed by 48% (corrosive duality), 43% (shock and incendiary duality) and 0% (cryo duality, what the hell?)
Bomber oz kit gives 54% grenade damage.

Now letā€™s assume we did some element matching with a shock IVF, the reload dmg in UVHM would be

  • boosted dmg = reload dmg * 1.54 * 2.75 with the bomber
  • boosted dmg = reload dmg * 1.48 * 2.75 with the duality.

Same with fire and corrosion IVFs and the corresponding duality kits

  • boosted dmg = reload dmg * 1.54 * 2 with the bomber
  • boosted dmg = reload dmg * 1.43 * 2 with the duality.

Raw damage is always better with the bomberr oz kit. The duality might help with elemental status effects and other non-tediore guns in your loadout, though.

#23

Not trying to beat a dead horse but would that necessarily be true when combining a duality and howitzer mod. 90% explosive damage bonus.

And I honestly donā€™t know, I am just asking. I do know that when I throw bonus packages at Iwa ā€¦that combination seems to be the most overpowering and it is grenades.

#24

Well, then letā€™s do the numbers (btw, I got the grenade damage formula wrong, mea culpa)

Howitzer + duality on an explosive IVF:

boosted dmg = base dmg * 38 * 1/2 * 1.90 = base dmg * 37.05

Now with a Terminator com + bomber oz kit

boosted dmg = base dmg * 61 * 1.54/2 = base dmg * 46.97

So, the IVF will still get a greater boost with a Terminator + bomber.
Then again, howitzer and duality will give your bonus package grenade more damage.

btw, my Athena teamed up with a clap today and he rolled a gun wizard. My IVF was at 129 mag size! Holy ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  batman.

#25

Btw, does anyone know how to throw the IVF in a way that makes the 2 spawning IVF clones hit as well? Apparently these things do the same damage as the main reload throw, so if all 3 hit, itā€™s triple damage.

Iā€™m currently trying to throw them downwards towards enemiesā€™ crotches while Iā€™m in the air, or at their feet when Iā€™m on the ground.

#26

I thought the child grenades did half of the main damage (or at least reduced). Should be easy to test though against something large (like Iwa). Sorry, donā€™t have an answer for multiple hits. Obviously, the large targets are easy to hit multiple times without any special aiming. I thought the child grenades always just popped out about 10 feet from the first explosion (one to each side), and Iā€™ve never noticed a different behavior. Although, I do like the idea that aiming and hitting the crotch of an enemy should be a special bulls-eye that creates one giant explosion. Seems somehow apropo given the weaponā€™s name.

#27

I shoot it quite a lot. Upon discovering how bad itā€™s bullets are, i immediately throw it toward my foes with the hope of placating their wrath.

#28

I use one in conjunction with a Min Min and Stormfront, and obviously a bomber OZ on CS Athena. Lightning and chucking everywhere, way too much fun.

#29

IVF good
IVF good