On the plus side, your post pointing me to prismatic’s post led me to realize that there’s a discrepancy between his formula for AOE bonus elements and the formula on the Fl4k damage formula masterpost; the masterpost says ASE doesn’t receive weapon type damage, while prismatic’s says it does.

If the formula post is right then my math stands; if prismatic’s post is right, then persistence hunter will result in a 10% damage loss per shot rather than 5% (all things being neutral).

So thanks to your comment, i get to sort that out and get better at this part