Maya vs Bloodwing Solo UVHM

OK, this game’s well and truly messed up. I’ve died more times than I care to mention, but at last managed to get BW’s health down to zero. Success!?

Er, no. With his health bar showing zero, he just shoots up in the air, changes element and regains 3/4 of his health just like that. This has now happened twice, I kid you not. What kind of idiot designs a mid game boss that’s harder to kill than the final one?! This is just cheating!

And now, I’ve whittled his health down to zero and he’s just hanging in the air, flapping his wings and looking at me, but no matter how many bullets I pump into him his health bar stays at zero but he remains very much alive. WTF am I supposed to do now? I can’t quit, cos that means going all the way back to the beginning of the WEP and I’d rather stick needles in my eyes than go through all that again. If that’s the only solution I may have to concede the defeat and put the game back in its box. It’s bad enough having a boss that’s harder to kill than Craw ever was IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME, without having him laughing at you by refusing to die even after you’ve finally got his health down. What is the friggin point of an invincible boss?

Sounds like BW glitched out in the final phase, which is very unfortunate but not unknown. The fight does indeed have multiple phases - shock, corrosive, etc. - but it has those in all modes. BW it not impossible - there are far worse bosses in the game - but the fight is definitely harder for some characters than others. In order to just move on, I’d suggest advertising for a co-op partner in the relevant on-line play section.

well, finally beat the SOB but it was a deeply unpleasant experience. I didn’t feel good after doing it, just immensely frustrated and angry that I had to waste so much time beating an enemy who just flies off and regains most of his health after you get him down. This was more like a RAID boss than a mid-game fight. Some really poor balancing by GBX here, especially since you can’t walk away if you want to try and complete the rest of the game.

If anyone’s interested, I eventually managed to shake him out of his glitched state. Bullets, phaselocking and even cursing (there was a lot of that) didn’t help, but I finally dislodged him by throwing up a grenade at him. Why that worked, I have no idea. Of course, he promptly regained most of his health and killed me, but that’s another story.

The adaptive shield worked best, along with the tip for hugging that side of the wall, so thanks for that. Although it was a bit of a shock first time the skags appeared behind me! No idea why it was so hard playing as Maya, since I’ve leveled four Axton characters as far as OP2 without BW making them break so much as a sweat. But Maya, although she’s easier than Axton in most of the game, was really weak in this fight.

Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions.

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That glich happened to me as melee zer0, I had to run through the entire Preserve multiple times as a result of it. Fun times. Idk why GBX never bothered patching some of the more disrupting softlocks in their game.

Actually, you can get the Bad Touch as often as you want- just join your game with a second character on a second account (a friend or just a second account on your console- it doesn’t even have to be a Gold account). Let the second character tip Moxxie and eventually she’ll offer a Bad Touch (I’ve had her offer the Bad Touch in less than 5 tips). Take the BT with your primary character, rinse and repeat. I have an OP7 and at least 2 OP8 versions of a Bad Touch- easy enough to get… :innocent:

I couldn’t let this one go… Maya anemic…? And is Bloodwing really that hard? I use a Conference Call normally, and that’s true overkill. So I decided to only spec as if I was at level 53, and use the gear I recommended in my first reply… a Vladof Anarchist and/or a Hyperion shottie. I decided to use the Bee, since the OP had it, and I also used a Guarded Warder COM. Points in Ward and Recompense. I speced pretty much accordingly to my own recommendations. The result… Bloodwing dead withing 30 seconds.

In UVHM, you need to keep your gear at par with your level,. Otherwise you’ll be struggling. My guess is that’s the situation.

My gear was on level. I detailed it out for you. only my shotguns were one under but I’d still be there now if I had to wait for the game to produce the right ones for me. You have to go with what you’re given. I honestly don’t see how you can down BW in 30s. I usually managed to get his health down to zero in 30s, but then he’d simply regenerate and we’d start all over again, this time with the skags, too. If you got past the regenerate part I’d like to know how, since I think that’s pretty much impossible.

I don’t really have a problem with any other part of the game. And so far Maya’s been easier than Axton for the most part. But BW’ was a different story. I guess our play styles must differ a lot

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Could depend on his BAR- my stats in it are all at least 22.4%- that could make a difference…

Could well be. Mine are all hovering around half that figure

When I did BW in UVHM with Maya, it was around level 54-55. BAR was probably around the 15% mark. Took a few minutes to get through all the phases! Fastest I’ve ever done that fight was with Salvador…

My BAR is just below 30%, and that gives me a boost ofc, but what I wanted to show is that the fight should be pretty easy with the Bee. It gives you so much firepower that Bloodwing will never get the chance to attack you. And the skags… You’ll be all done long before they show up. DPS is your friend in this fight.

The health bar goes back up everytime BW changes element. This means that Reaper is active right after this happens. That’s when you pound her. A quick phaselock and then whamm-o. Your inventory limits what you can do, but you can get the job done with any fast firing gun.

Hope it helps!

that just wasn’t my experience. Yes, the first time I got his health down I didn’t have to worry about skags and it was pretty straightforward and quick, but then he simply took off and disappeared while his health went back up, and at the same time the first waves of skags launched. Now, I can either try to ignore the skags and hope BW returns quickly, or I can take out the skags before they reach me, but either way this means either BW or the skags are going to damage my shield, which is where the vicious circle begins.

I did have occasions when he was walking and pecking at me in his Shock phase where I back-pedalled and pumped Bee-enhanced lead into him with my Infinity, but I could never do enough before he caught up with me or before he supercharged a skag so that it ran five times as fast. Again, this meant taking damage to my shields. But even with p/l on and hitting him constantly there was no way that I could do it in less than 30s - maybe with a UH it might be possible, but otherwise I just don’t see how. I’m not the best player but I’m not that bad, either. Nothing else has given me as much trouble.

In the end I took out his Fire phase with an Incendiary Bee, then switched to an Adaptive shield and did the rest of him with that and my Incendiary Shredifier. It was the only way possible but was a very frustrating experience, not to mention a grind. Like I said, I died more times in that one fight than with my entire Maya character to date. Don’t want to go through that again in a hurry

yeah, I don’t remember ever having any problems with my Axton characters. I think probably because the turret distracted the skags leaving me to focus entirely on BW. With Maya it was much more…challenging!

Not all Bees are the same. The biggest problem in that fight was the skaggs (especially when they sprout into badazzes and go elemental…)

My biggest problem with skaggs in the BW fight is that they all disappear and refuse to spawn whenever I need a second wind!

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I was never my intention to imply that you’re a bad player. Apologies if you felt insulted. My goal was to help you all along, but sometimes our words come out wrong. That said…

In my fight, I used an Anarchist, which is one of the best guns in the game. It’s a purple gun, but still super. The glitchy behaviour you describe can’t be fixed by any gun. It’s just a royal pain in the butt. But my advice still stands: Drop the hammer on her as soon as you get the chance. Your best defense is a badass offense!

And I do appreciate the help. Very much, thanks. But I simply didn’t have any weapons that could take him out fast enough, even with the Bee. Not before the skags at least took off some shield!

Are the skags a constant on UVHM or not? It’s been a while since I’ve done that fight but I can’t always remember getting skags- and unless there was a rabid among them, I tended to ignore them anyway but as as a famous military saying goes, “When you’re up to your ass in alligators, it’s sometimes hard to remember your mission is to drain the swamp.”

I’ve never been able to figure it out. I think they’re on some kind of timer during each elemental phase so, if you’re really quick, it’s possible to skip them. I do know that when you need one, you can never find one - bit like buses in London, really…

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Skags show up around a minute or two in. Phaselock one and let BW have it with the bee shield and the fastest firing weapon you have. I had (still use it) a shock Assault Veruc. Works wonders.