[This started out as me having a really hard time getting Hidden Machine to proc and thinking it doesn’t work on melee at all. It does… it’s just weird about when it procs and harder to use than expected. Not sure if this is working as intended or not, enemies seem to count as targeting FL4K a lot even when FL4K is invisible, enemies aren’t looking at them, or are shooting their pet instead. See the second post. A lot of the stuff in this first post turned out to be wrong.]
I’ve been playing a ton of melee FL4K and it’s been a blast but I just started trying to look into the math of their skills and what affects melee damage and found something kinda disappointing.
I was hoping Hidden Machine would be like Zer0’s Ambush because the wording is very similar and it says it makes FL4K do increased “Damage”. Not gun damage, just damage. So I assumed this would work with melee, and I was REALLY hoping it would be multiplicative like Ambush.
I just sat down and tried to look into the numbers to find out the math of how this skill works… and it turns out… it doesn’t.
At least I couldn’t get it to change anything. Stabbing from the front with the Buttplug gives me 2831 damage with or without Hidden Machine and being in Fade Away, and from the back is 5661 with or without Hidden Machine & FA. I’ve respecced a few times, logged in and out, tried it with a pet to pull aggro, stabbed enemies who were busy shooting my pet in the face and absolutely not targeting me… no changes from the melee numbers I get without Hidden Machine.
Video of this happening:
The one hit for 5661 damage I do while invisible isn’t Hidden Machine doing anything, it’s the same number I get on a backstab with the Buttplug while not specced into Hidden Machine.
Unless I’m doing something horribly wrong and Hidden Machine is freakishly hard to proc even if you’re invisible and standing behind an enemy who is busy shooting your pet… yeah, it doesn’t seem to work on melee. I have not tested the numbers on guns or tested this skill in general to see if it even works on guns because I’ve been too busy stabbing things in the ass.
(I have like… a very tiny Guardian Rank melee boost. Put a point into there before I remembered I wanted a blank slate for testing melee math. Whoops. So my melee numbers may be a tiny bit off from other people’s.)
I’m gonna keep on keeping on with Melee FL4K because stabbing enemies in the ass while invisible is working out great and really fun but uhh… Gearbox? If you’re out there? Halp? Fix this? I wanna pretend I’m a very weird Borderlands 3 version of melee Zer0 and this skill not doing what it says is kinda sad. Plz buff Hidden Machine so it works on ass stab.