Melee Zer0....You Still 0ut There?

[Kuolemanlaakso (That, Sir, Is a Richard Relocation)]

I’m encountering an issue, i’ve been trying to learn how to melee with Zer0 via OP1 peak, and everytime I execute a sapper, I seem to hit FFYL… Am I missing something?

[Sun_Tsunami (Proud member of the Poor Boys)]

Is the sapper doing his fire nova? Sappers are like mini Scorches so you have to treat them as such. Most Zer0s do not melee this enemy. Gun or launcher it.

[ChemicalConundrum (What does it all mean!?)]

To my understanding, Rising shot is taken because you are often face tanking an enemy with your grog or rapier and so in those cases you build Rising Shot stacks, it’s not for MMF…I dunno, I have it on my melee Zero, but I’ve not tried with or without to see if it makes a major difference

[Kuolemanlaakso (That, Sir, Is a Richard Relocation)]

Thanks for the tip, I will keep it in mind.

[Sun_Tsunami (Proud member of the Poor Boys)]

@ChemicalConundrum brought this vid to my attention. Great info from @Joltzdude139

[Sun_Tsunami (Proud member of the Poor Boys)]

Had a Co0p session with @nat_zero_six. 1st Boss of 3:

[Jefe (བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)]

Does it seem to you guys that there’s a point when Terra’s descending that she doesn’t take damage anymore? You can still manage a successful Execute when she’s just gone fully under but it doesn’t seem to me to do anything. I kind of thinking half her head needs to be exposed or something?

[Sun_Tsunami (Proud member of the Poor Boys)]

Yes, I see that as well. On this kill, not only the underground head doesn’t take damage, I missed a couple executes with shield not fully stripped. Definitely not a clean raid.

[Jefe (བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)]

I thought I’d poke around the net to see if anyone has actually tested this - instead I was stopped dead by this :

Why Gearbox created a Borderlands 2 boss so tough it's nearly Invincible

I’m dying

[Sun_Tsunami (Proud member of the Poor Boys)]

Lol.

if anyone has actually tested this

I think this is a job for Jefe the Master Tester.

[Kuolemanlaakso (That, Sir, Is a Richard Relocation)]

Jefe the Master Baiter and the Mass Debater.

[Jefe (བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)]

I took Zer0 down to True. Melee’s damage is too variable so I just hit her with the Ultimate Shield Stripper (Rapier) as she descended. She continued to take equal damage the whole time - and even took damage for that second or two when she goes fully underground.
This still seems weird - I’m positive Executes do nothing or next-to-nothing after her head starts to disappear.

@StrikerZidane - thoughts?

Does it seem to you guys that there’s a point when Terra’s descending that she doesn’t take damage anymore? You can still manage a successful Execute when she’s just gone fully under but it doesn’t seem to me to do anything. I kind of thinking half her head needs to be exposed or something?

[nat_zero_six (I’m Nat and just a Number.)]

Remind me next time that it is a bad idea to take on terra after a long break. Lol

[Jefe (བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)]

I reviewed my video frame by frame :

Here she is taking damage. I’m not sure what to make of those different numbers - they were different even when she was fully up.

You can start to see “RESIST!” now - I guess her chin is touching the ground.

She still shows numbers but shows “RESIST!” a bit more.

I have no idea what exactly to conclude from that other than I’m more confused than ever. Damage numbers with intermittent “resists”?

[Dr_Do-Little (Від'їбись!)]

Any recommandation for Hide of Terra parts?
Found these 3 so far. (Faster to farm then the Hornet! )

I’m leaning toward the last one. The 4.62 delay. Pan,Pan,Hyp.
Any keeper?

[Kuolemanlaakso (That, Sir, Is a Richard Relocation)]

All Maliwan is best I think. Just keep in mind that the Maliwan body is a myth that only exists in other people’s games.

[Jefe (བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)]

Mailwan parts are great but I think we all agree they have the smallest chance to spawn.

Pangolin is so bad, but yes the third one is the least bad. It has a very large capacity. I don’t think you’ll have an issue stripping it but if you do you may have to find an OP1+ Chain Lightning (or try a shock Bone).

[Dr_Do-Little (Від'їбись!)]

Pangolin is so bad, but yes the third one is the least bad.

Thank you for your support…
Yeah. I figured Pangolin wouldn’t be recommended. Or Hyperion. They kinda balanced each others but not quite if I read you right.

[Kuolemanlaakso (That, Sir, Is a Richard Relocation)]

Hide of Terramorphous	Max Capacity	Pangolin	Pangolin	Pangolin	921059	53474	6.86	+461591	1143366
	Max Recharge Rate	Bandit	Bandit	Bandit	653655	141257	4.34	+366089	880736
	Min Recharge Delay	Hyperion	Hyperion	Hyperion	462652	80136	1.79	+652594	1668624
	Max Roid Damage	Maliwan	Maliwan	Maliwan	424451	98473	3.50	+811763	2106339
	Max Nova Damage	Maliwan	Maliwan	Maliwan	424451	98473	3.50	+811763	2106339
	Blast Proof. Max Roid & Nova Damage	Maliwan	Maliwan	Torque	526320	100510	3.78	+673816	1726986

Wow it worked, kind of… That’s the stats at 72.

[Jefe (བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)]

The delay is the most important thing for the shield - certainly initially. Less than 3 seconds and you’ll never have an opportunity to learn shield management during chains. 3.5 to 4.0 is ideal - any longer and you can become vulnerable.

The Hyp part gets that punishing Pangolin delay in line and gets the damage up to “acceptable”.

Incidentally @Dr_Do-Little - that delay is such that having BAR on could be a good thing.