#21

You’re absolutely insane if you took volley pen at level one over the slow.

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#22

Not entirely. The volley pen is and was a great choice. It forced one to be more careful with how you used blight is all. Like I said, put down blight after enemy minion wave has engaged your team or your minions. You will get the full damage of it that way. the size reduction back in the last update made the slow much less powerful. You were less likely to slow the enemy battleborn to make it easier to hit them, because of the pitiful size. It was still always a hard choice between the two, but now a person can get both by level six. I see that as a mid-late game buff

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#23

Not at all, personally I think he was looking down the line when gearbox said they were trying to get people to stop playing thorn almost purely as a caster. He adapted and now for his use of the character received a buff in mid-late game, but no need to try to disparage someone using a different build.

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#24

@AncientBelgareth
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#25

Kinda unhinged my own topic didn’t I. Oh well. Thanks @hexhammer. Never had a good excuse to do so much math in a while. Was kinda fun actually.

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#26

Came off harsh. I just can’t see any scenario where if the helixes were the same where I wouldn’t take the slow. Enhances so much of the rest of her kit and helps the team so much more.

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#27

No I know exactly what you mean, and agree completely. I just find it harder to apply usefully against enemy battleborn with the size nerf. Sure you can still apply the slow, but the area denial is pretty negligible now. I just found the piercing volley to be really viable after the blight nerf. I probably chose the slow about 50% of the time depending on map, enemies, teammates, etc. I played with someone who played a lot of earnest, and he picked the slow pretty often, which made taking slow on blight a bit redundant most of the time.

#28

Ah okay, understandable then. I just very rarely pass up opportunities for more cc

#29

I agree, blight got nerfed by size not by its dmg. I started to use its pircing volley a lot.

Does anyone know if pircing volley can hit more than 1 time? I usually tries to get in high ground or jump to land the arros in an V trying to hit twice an enemy or wave.

If they can hit twice that means splinter helix is op right?

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#30

Still not sure about the splinter helix. I need to test it some more before I get any real opinion about it.

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#31

It seemed decent to me when I messed with it actually, each enemy hit spawns 2 more arrows that are aimed towards enemies and seemed to actually get some results for me but it also isn’t as easy to predict since it could pick any nearby enemy for the splinter arrows

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#32

I know I’ve used it a few times, and it did seem so be doing some good damage, but I haven’t actually done the math yet to see how much damage it could actually do. It could very well have more damage potential than the bleeding volley, but I am just not sure yet. One of these days I’ll take the time to sit down and figure it out.

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#33

With piercing it could be really strong but idk if it works on every target it hits, and if the volley keeps on going in 2 pieces or part keeps going and two split off randomly, etc

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#34

Your right I didn’t the added amp burst is only 105.5 with 2 skills which is far lower but not really. The total tick of blight with the passive adds 52, with the triple damage at blights end 65 damage. It would take roughly about 3 seconds of blight time to over power the Bleed. Funny part is getting that 4.5 seconds is easier than cursing someone with a full drawn arrow. Even if you don’t get it, 1 second of blight time shrinks the window to 33 damage.

The bleed bleeds over 8 seconds and takes roughly 5.5 seconds to even do 100 damage, technically 6. There’s a reason why it was never used. That’s a lot of time to give someone to live in this game.

Added in that the only practical way to curse someone is through Volley. I’d give that 39ish damage any day.

#35

Old volley yes.

New volley shoots the arrows to the four corners of the world.

#36

But what about splinter? Do the arrows keep their direction and momentum or fraction off in random directions, thus making piercing useless?

#37

Im gonna test it with voxis core in the dojo

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#38

@epicender584 i used bolas and voxis core
Oky splinter max dmg i saw 293
Poison 340
Jumping doing an angle V in minions 440

I recorded the videos just to make sure about the numbers, gonna upload it later. When my familiy stop using my console cough

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#39

So do the splinter arrows keep going in the same direction or go in random directions?

#40

Maybe if you can’t aim :stuck_out_tongue:

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