I remember trying to explain this to someone and they said that since he’s a big target he’s gonna get owned. Montana is beastly in the right hands and right comp and is a pain in the ass to deal with while fun as ■■■■ when you are on the tanking end.
I think one game I absorbed almost 100k damage for my team with him, only dying 3 times out of the 8 our team suffered. We, however, took out 56, all thanks to me just taking blows and my teams finishing off the attackers.
Nah. I’d still take the extra health and use gear for AS increases.
I take both accuracy buffers. I am not a huge fan of health regen on dudes like Montana but I also prefer him in incursion over meltdown. When I use hailstorm in conjunction with the built up heat I find that his accuracy is just insane. I usually keep him as a mid liner and harass smaller characters and make the lives of bigger characters absolute hell. I save my lumberjack dash(also take the level 2 mutation to add damage distance) to either lock down enemies at choke points, to stun people trying to chase my dying allies(which often means they have to run away at that point) or in self defense when somebody thinks they can just walk up to me and dish damage out. I also do my absolute best to avoid long range characters with cover
Do you have any suggestions for it
I am also finding it difficult to be satisfied with gear load outs for him. AD and AS don’t feel as good to stack on him as most other characters do for me
This guy gets it
Get his legendary. It’s one of the better character legendaries in the game IMO. From my understanding they fixed his bugged lore challenge, so it should be obtainable again 
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Yeah, pick the extra health. 
Actually, if it increased attack damage, it might be worth it, but the extra health is too good to pass up.
I just wanna say, it’s been a real treat seeing how different people play Montana. I didn’t think anybody hardly played him, much less had opinions on him. You guys have convinced me to give firestorm Montana another go now that I’m more confident with him. I’ll probably post here and let you guys know how it goes!
If it increased damage it might be TOO worth it lol
I gots his legendary 
it’s trying to figure out what else I want to take with me that is the challenge. My current setup is his legendary a shard generator and blissbeast skull plate. Before it was his legend a purple sword with 210 health and a syringe with a little dam reduction on it
Yeah I feel like you can run anything with him depending on how you play. I’ve tried damage reduction gear and I don’t really notice much of a difference. I actually run his legendary, 0 cost shard generator, and oath of the sustained with him cuz I feel like it’s utterly broken on anybody lol
I agree about the dam reduction. But man hitting level 9 and basically having a flat 65 percent dam reduction for 5 seconds is amazing. I really would like to know how much dam reduction mansformation does.
Oath seems ok but still not in love with it especially since I don’t take health regen at all
My build btw is:
R (but I have always wanted to try L)
M
L
L
M
L
R (though I have always wanted to try M. R is too good to pass imo)
L
M
L
If GBX does stats in Battleborn the same way they did BL, the damage reduction isn’t additive. And I would guess that after popping mansformation, the damage reduction you get from that will be applied BEFORE the damage reduction from items, giving that item’s stats further diminishing returns. I could be wrong though, as the stat calculation in BL is cryptic as f*ck
Ugh that doesn’t help me feel commuted about my choice of gear… Had wanted to try the Alamo too. Or maybe even the pacifier
I’ve thought about trying pacifier myself. I haven’t used it much though, so I don’t know it’s overall effectiveness. Alamo, however, would be an interesting choice. I don’t have that one myself, but I am familiar with it.
Btw Alani with an Alamo is absolutely broken
Pacifier in my mind sounds pretty good atm and will have to grind one out and try it. Can’t remember the secondary stat though…
In regards to your Alani comment… Have you ever tryed the borrowed timer on kelvin? XD
So, I’ve tried firestorm a couple more times and… I still hate it. Getting rid of that slow gets rid of all the versatility Montana has. I’m sorry, but I just can’t part with it
EDIT: After the firestorm games, went back to hailstorm for a couple games and forced surrenders both times whilst also not dying once 
yeah, the problem is you HAVE to take it for fire damage lore. I’ll probably just grind that one out in PVE in a private game.
I notice Everyone on here is hating on firestorm. Let me explain some uses from a MANtana that nets 10 to 15 kills a PvP.
Firestorms best use is for shield wielding enemies. Boulder a good Gal or an Annoying ISIC this allows much more DPS on the shield. Cranks up the heat faster meaning more speed and more damage.
Firestorm also lights them little bastards on fire. Orendi Pendeles OM Deande to name a few sometimes thats all it takes when they have a lousy healer.
I make this argument for a situational build only. Ice bullets is best by far as it allows longer damage output.