#22

It’s been interesting avoiding spoilers while looking for honest feedback on the game. It really does seem like they didn’t lose the most positive and invested content creators and fans until they started doing updates and releasing DLC.

Beyond the use of celebrity voice talent, my guess was that this game was going to have a smaller scope like The Presequel as far as the narrowing of focus to a specific aspect of the series in a way similar to how The Presequel felt like Eridium Blight + Opportunity + a brief return to the WEP, but at night aka in space.

I’ll continue to wait for a steam release at a price that seems fair for the content whenever that comes to pass. There’s a chance that I’ll miss a lot of fun of weapons that will be nerfed up till that point, and honestly, pay for this game as it is, and having to use the Epic Store, I don’t mind taking that L.

The way they are releasing content makes me think they are happy for BL streamers to be variety streamers and not just play the current game exclusively until the wheels fall off. It would be nice if they extended the community events and boss buffing to the other games in the series.

They have 5 Borderlands Action games so any member of the stream team would have a chance to rotate between each game over the course of a normal business week (m-f) and keep things somewhat fresh.

#23

Well but that’s your decision
The season pass price is tagged on to the base game
And i don’t know how people keep seeing this but for me the base game is way more than enough content to be a full priced game

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#24

@lolli42

We respect your opinion on the size and price of the game, but please know it is your opinion; not fact … and yes, you seem to be the only one that sees it that way.

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#25

Certainly not xD
But i wanna let you enjoy this little…bubble you are floating in here :slight_smile:

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#26

As someone who doesn’t have Wonderlands, the base game definitely looks to be worth the price. The DLC, so far, doesn’t really. That’s my hot take :sweat_smile:

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#27

From the literally hundreds of opinions I read about Wonderlands so far, it seems that it’s shorter than the usual Borderlands game (or rather: shorter than BL2 and BL3), but has enough good content that it’s worth the full price, especially if you want to play multiple playthroughs and want to get to Chaos 35.

The DLC content on the other hand is - in my opinion - straight up insulting and not just to the fans, but to all DLC’s Gearbox made in the last decade. Just measuring up the first 2 DLC of Wonderlands and BL2, BL3 or hell, even The Pre-Sequel and BL1, makes Wonderlands’ Season Pass look like a really, REALLY bad joke.

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#29

Seriously… Like there are tons of videos of players using companion builds and all they do (I do it too, sometimes) is stand in one spot on a map, shoot one round out of a pixie pistol, reload, and repeat. The enemies disappear and the round is over. Where’s the fun in that? It’s like the game devs just threw in modded gear without having to get modded gear. No skill involved and it looses it’s luster rather quickly.

My counter to that is to use the Carouser only and still eliminate most enemies with one or two shots.

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#30

there is no pistol that does more damage than rocket launchers per bullet there mate

if you consider bee amped shots for lady fist harold or fibber split yeah but otherwise no.

that is not to say bl2 balance is not horrid but not to learn and improve up on it is a crime of it’s own.

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#31

I know someone who just adores Justin Beiber and can find no fault with him at any level. I’m not going to tell you that you’re wrong, I’m just going to say that the overwhelming majority of people do not feel as blindly enamored by Gearbox games as you.

Personally I don’t understand how anyone can feel happy by this clearly halfhearted attempt at making a game and then obvious overcharging by a factor of 10 for the DLC content that they’ve released and announced. But that’s just me.

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#32

Eh, I’d like that as a gimmick. But yeah, I meant the more absurd pistols like the Harold, combo’d with skills and other gear. Because that’s what’s happening here, right?

Could be wrong, don’t have the game haha.

On a similar note, I’m not sure calling people with a different opinion of a video game to you “blindly enamoured” is worth much of anything.

In fact, I’ve got a specific feeling you wouldn’t like being called similar names. So why bother?

Nobody gave your opinion the popular mandate. It’s just an opinion and worth literally just that. The names you call others is just the icing on the cake.

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#33

i think you have no idea how i generally feel about gbx games but ty for the attempt
i am just having way more fun in here than ever before probably since playing bl2 and i know that a lot of people outside of your little bubble feel the same
usually i was playing borderlands games through with 1 character
now i have already finished the story with 5?
it might have to do with the fact that i came to the franchise through fantasy games like diablo etc. and not ego shooters

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#34

I had not thought about it that way, but yeah, it does have potential. I just saw it as a grind to get back to where I was. Good point. :+1:

Edit: Oh wait, I forgot, I’ve heard that everytime you save it starts you back at the beginning. Soooo, this won’t work unless you play all the way through the game in one session.

#35

This is accurate. The base game is fun, but short. And a little more repetitive (and this is coming from a guy who has replayed several VHs multiple times and between BL2, TPS and BL3, the game with the LEAST amount of hours is TPS at 1,100 hours) than we are used to. Thus, having good DLC to keep us intrigued is desperately needed and is also lacking. The game can be worth $60. The season pass is probably a good deal at $5, $10 if you’re feeling generous.

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#36

This is correct. Found it out the hard way.

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#37

They fixed the mission progression glitch recently.

And here’s 3 golden keys for your patience! If I didn’t think I would get flagged, I’d post a middle finger. Because that’s what this game feels like, more than a little bit. Y’all know I try to be very reasonable (or at least I hope you’ve seen that), but damn. Even a reasonable person should be losing patience with Wonderlands by now.

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#38

Nope. At the low end, weaker launchers get outdamaged per shot by COV (Scalawag whatever) pistols while a blueJakobs Masher Pushpin would outdamage all but the highest damage unique launchers. The strongest use for launchers is to apply big dots, which is pretty damn sad.

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#39

nerfs where expected (leaving some weapons broken OP would actualy hurt the longevity of the game)

on the DLC, i wasn’t expecting jackpot level content but at least something more like the side mision maps in this game (crackmast cove and sunfang oasis) with a boss and an obolisk.
a glorified chaos chamber is a bit thin :sweat_smile:

many people already said this, we got more from free content in BL3 then we got from payed DLC in TTWL

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#40

Please Sir, may I have more?

Oliver

#41

I miss how launchers were balanced to be super limited use, but did tons of damage to compensate. They really felt like true heavy hitters you’d pull out to get out of FFYL, or go on a massive damage spree for a moment. BL3/Wonderlands give us more launcher ammo so we can use them more at the expense of less damage. Which sadly just made them used less… Speed debuffs rub more salt in the wound too.

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#42

i was actually referring to bl3’s trends like by the end they were putting in ■■■■ like free radical which has high fire rate high dot extra projectiles and both main and extra projectiles are splash ffs
radical and plasma coil simply have no right to exist if there is at least a single person working on what is called balance and gameplay development.

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