Enjoy!

I would really love to run a Bottomless Mags/SoR Moze that just tears through everything with a massive amount of lead being tossed into enemies skulls.

It just doesn’t have a viable sustain to be feasible though. Which I think is Moze’s biggest issue. She’s far too reliant on Vampyr, a skill that’s very deep in her DW tree.

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Oh wow! I also found something I didn’t even know existed…

Hey try a purple Nuke taculer tracker that’s homing, consumes two grenades and splits into 2 mirvs then bounces…It always regens for me…

His point was that Moze needs other ways to heal besides Vampyr as it’s a deep investment in demolition woman and the only hp heal. Which extremely limits her builds. Even a full investment in SOR tree isn’t good enough really if you don’t want to run the typical bloodletter/deathless. And then still, cannot heal hp at all, without Vampyr.

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if you dont put points in fire in the skag den theres always the good ol thunderball fist + transformer, i have also seen some anointed item that comes with +15% lifesteal after exiting IB but never tried it so cant say how good/crap it is

Transformer and self damage is a exploitable way to heal that feels extremely cheesy. Why not just use the last stand glitch at that point honestly. What we are talking about is ways for MOZE to heal from her builds, not ways any vault hunter can cheeseball content.

Also, not needing a specific end-game item to provide what her skill trees should already.

I’ve been able to get some survivability out of a SOR/Bottomless Mags build using the Hail (175% crit damage), Binary Crit, and Chupa’s Organ (I just got my hands on Moxxi’s Bouncing Pair last night. Haven’t had a chance to test that out yet.) with a Bloodletter.

It’s not as efficient as Vampyre, but with the damage/crit buffs in the two trees and the damage reduction in SOR, it’s better than nothing. Also, without having to worry about reloading (and getting bonus incendiary damage), the Crit is a surprisingly good gun as long as you fire in bursts.

Could also run a Blast Master COM to get Vampyre and Holy Pin without running down the tree and devoting your points elsewhere. Might not be the most efficient min-max route, but it’s there.

Also, it’s not great but you can always jump into the iron bear and run away while your shields recharge. It’s not like IB really does anything else.