My Friend is in the hospital and the Doctors haven't done anything but tell me to trust them

Battleborn Battleborn General Discussion
#15

Yeah, they are a company not a charity but when something is shady, is shady.

I liked the way sasuga expressed this. He could be wrong, he could be right but when people chose those extreme metaphores they are showing a deeply care for the, in this case, product they are trying to protect and they want to be the best they could.

And right now, going for another metaphor, Battleborn is a child with a gun. Not only it shot its foot releasing the same month as Overwatch but not only nobody is taking the weapon from it but also it wants to shot again to learn if it still hurts.

Sure the devs fix things when they can and they are doing a good job, I don’t have a complain about that even when there are more things to take care. When I have a problem with communication is when something like this market fiasco raises.

How many threads there are about the T2 skins? How many people asking questions about them? And we get a sure straight answer? We knew they were coming only for money? Only soon, soon, soon… something that people waited, something that could make people grind, ergo play, so they can get them, they made an Evolve move and placed them behind a paywall.

I don’t have a problem with microtransactions, I said that a lot. I have a problem because they are selling something that was already in the game, they wanted to show them or not is another story, but was there, people saw them.

And they are doing it when they aren’t delivering yet not even info on the season pass… sure, we’ll get a lot, fluff and stories and whatever… Man, they could be respectful and a good company with us and give us at least info or a freaking two or three skins before hand from the season pass so we couldn’t feel like they were shitting in our money, pulling microtransactions in a full price with season pass game. But no, they ask trust and money, blind faith.

I feel like I purchased the game from the catholic church, not Gearbox.

#16

[quote=“jjand302, post:10, topic:1513212”]
So I get it, bb on pc is having difficulty with performance and player base. But just look at exactly how many fixes, changes, and balancing gbx has done in 1 month. It’s a large list.[/quote]
Did it help with the issues you’ve mentioned? Partly, at best, it’s still not enough and player base is still decreasing.

#17

There is another way to look at it they are selling the ones people have already seen and some people were not impressed with them, and they are giving the season pass holders ones that nobody has seen yet and are probably going to be better(maybe even T3 skins) I do agree that their communication on this specific issue wasn’t great I dont blame @JoeKGBX though he only says what he’s allowed to say.

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#18

Have you seen today’s patch notes? They made a lot of big performance fixes for pc. And the rest I’d say yes it helped the player base. There were some game breaking things that were fixed and gbx was highly praised when they did. For example, sniper cheesing on overgrowth

#19

I don’t blame mods or even devs on the lack of communication, I include Gearbox because is the visible face but it’s 2k and we all know it. Problem is that is gonna be bad on Gearbox part.

Here the problem is they didn’t show the skins on screens nor they say they were money only ones. The skins were in the game, in beta. Was their intention or not, they were there. I really hope the season pass ones are good and the taunts are fun, I hope to have at least info on the first dlc soon, but the way I’m seeing it, in a game with no new real content yet, dropping people like is the Titanic, they chose to take part of the game (the skins) and sell them, right now… after they already dropped the price of the game not taking into consideration not even with a ‘We are sorry’ for the full price owners, without even info on the season pass and with no progressing yet pass level 100 so the playerbase could have a carrot on a stick after reaching that mark.

Sure, they are addressing a lot of things with this patch and I’m grateful for those but the marketplace plans came in a bad moment, too soon and with a thing that should be part of the game (I don’t have problem with T3 skins being place for money)

#20

I get why people are upset but from what I can tell they are just sticking to their original plan that was made before the game even released. That’s the impression I get anyway…except for the price drop I actually think that was them trying to get back at OW for basically ruining their release date(it didn’t work as planned)

#21

We have had weekly hotfixes and one hotfix on day 2, so 6 hotfixes and 3 patches since may 3rd.

In 42 days we have had updates and or fixes 9 times, so every 4.6 days and on top of that there has been communication from the devs saying many things they are working on.

How is that not support or communication? Has it been perfect? No, but its better than just about any other game I have seen.

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#22

Performance issues aren’t sticked to PVP maps only, they’ve never (or was it one time?) touched campaign maps, for example. And they never addressed issues that sometimes are solved by reinstalling drivers, OS, redists, etc. With all those massive FPS drops even on powerful setups (not only AMD, nVidia too), you know.

Well, let’s see how their new particle settings will work.

#23

i never said Battleborn wasn’t receiving treatment, not in this metaphor nor in actual writing.
i do realize it is getting help, patches and fixes.
and i do appreciate the support.
but we are missing the target.

what i’m trying to illustrate here, is we are being kept out of the treatment conversations till after the fact.
also, the most pressing issues are receiving treatment too little, too late.

PvP is horrendous, mostly because every SINGLE game has an Alani on BOTH sides.
Her pick rate is probably around 90% of every match in EVERY game mode.
on top of that, d/c’s and leavers and not to mention the annoyance of early surrenders.

PvE is also plagued by issues, low drop rates, unrewarding low-stat-roll legendaries
Bugs that prevent you from completing the mission, like in Sentinel, where you have to suicide to get out.
also the fact there is no minimum Command Rank requirement to advanced Story queue.
which lets in people who have no idea what they are doing, i’ve had lvl 4’s queue up with me multiple times.
we fail spectacularly if the mission has anything to protect, ie: experiment or saboteur.

these issues, ON TOP of horribad lore completion requirements
are causing people to put the game down
these are the issues we need to address, or at LEAST talk about addressing

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#24

But were not, Gearbox has patched in things we asked for, they have communicated many things they are working on. They can’t tell us everything but they have told us pretty much everything they can.

They read this place and even if they don’t respond to anything the feedback is received.

Things take time and even today we got a large patch addressing many things the community has asked for.

We are getting things we asked for, not everything so far and we won’t get everything but we are getting a lot and some of the things will just take longer.

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#25

You’re comparing a hospitalized and dying friend to a video game’s playerbase…
Holy Skag-lick do you have far too much free time to spend making painfully forced analogies…

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#26

Low drop Rates: I’m fine with that since I already have 13 Legendary items. That and I don’t use them.
Unrewarding stats rolls: I concur.
Progress killing bugs: I concur 19,172,946,881%
Minimum Command Rank requirements for Advanced: I don’t play Advanced unless friends invite me to Private sessions so I don’t know about this one.

#27

Here, buy some cloths for your dying friend. You can play comatose dressup with his body until he dies.

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#28

Maybe, just maybe Gearbox isn’t a basement with 5 people and one Apple IPhone and is actually a large development team with individual character designers and coding people.

Maybe, just maaaaaaaaaaybe the have the former work on character costumes (the easy part) while the latter works on fixing issues (the hard part) which they have been doing since literally the first week or release?

Naaa, they are just focusing on MTs, they don’t care about their game’s success, why should they?
It’s not like they have jobs and careers on the line.

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#29

Honestly, it’s a good metaphor to use, BUT I will say Gearbox is updating the game. I am hoping in some months people will come back because a lot of things will be fixed and it will be a better game.

Still gonna play it for now even though I can’t get in a Melt Down game.

#30

Sticking with your doctor metaphor if your friend had an accident and couldn’t walk and then guaranteed he would be walking again in lets say 2 weeks and then 2weeks later comes and he’s still not walking. Would you be upset? Of course you would that’s why even drs in situations like the one I just described dont give exact dates most of the time. They give vague answers like you’ll be walking “soon” because sometimes things dont go according to plan due to things out of everybody’s control.

My point is the devs give vague answers not because they don’t care but because they don’t want to give an exact time something will be ready and then something go wrong with it causing them to change the plan and angering even more people who were looking forward to it

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#31

As someone who’s working in similar industry, if they dont talk soon to engage the customers, then soon when they talk there will be nobody listening.

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#32

And we are customers, not donors.

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#33

As a sql dev for a sister company to webmd. HIPAA is serious business. Hand scanners to go along with the rf badges that have to be shown at all times. Aetna will hunt you down if you violate it.

#34

Lol @sasuga this was entertaining but also sad because your are 100% CORRECT.

And to all of the people saying “they’ve updated and sent out fixes and patches yatta yatta” yes they have continued to support this game BUT they HAVE to because they sent out a broken game that way too many people bought at full retail price. They are responsible for fixing these issues because it’s their fault the game is so buggy. They could choose not to fix anything sure but im sure they want people to actually play BB. People shouldn’t brag that a game has had so many fixes and it’s not even two months now.

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