When they changed this helix I knew this would be broken as hell, which is why I’ve stayed away from using it. Also I just hate the fact you don’t really have to place it strategically, making Orendi appear completely skill-less, just like Pillarstorm used to do (RIP Pillarstorm).
After playing against an Orendi who used Nihilism, I decided to finally make a thread about it since I wanted to see what others thought. I’m gonna use a few numbers I found from testing in the dojo, but numbers are weird in this game so feel free to correct me if you think I’m wrong. All numbers will be at level 10, and will not include the level 4 DOT, just the impact.
Base Damage to Minions - 437
Base Damage to Battleborn (I should test this against a player but it’s late and I wanna get this out) - 437/1.15= 380
Level 7 Helix - 3801.15 = 437
With basic skill damage gear - 4371.091 = 477
So at level 10, Shadowfire Pillar’s impact damage with Nihilism deals 477 damage (again I will probably test this tomorrow).
The DOT ticks for 60*1.15(level 7)*1.091(gear) = 75 damage per 0.5 seconds, totalling 225 over 1.5 seconds. Likelihood is you will hit at least 1 or 2 ticks. Adding this up you get:
1 tick - 75+477 = 552
2 ticks - 150+477 = 627
3 ticks - 225+477 = 702
The DOT’s damage is not effected by levels and is only increased by gear and the helix. The impact damage does change through levels, decreasing by 10 per level after helices and gear (467 at level 9 etc).
So that’s the numbers done I think (as I said, feel free to correct me if you think I’m wrong, and I will probably do more testing tomorrow). From now on I will go on the basis that you will hit just 1 tick of the dot, with the damage being 552.
552 is quite a lot of damage. It’s not insane, but here’s the reason I think Nihilism is broken…
YOU CAN’T MISS THE DAMN THING!
Being able to deal 552 (practically) unmissable and even worse, UNDODGEABLE damage is absolutely ridiculous. You can’t dodge something that hits instantly. The only time you won’t take damage from it is if the Orendi misses, but it’s really not difficult to place a Shadowfire Pillar on someone.
The thing I love about Shadowfire Pillar is the beautiful art of placement, but Nihilism removes any need to think and predict. I hate the fact that she becomes skill-less, it’s the reason I pushed so hard for the Pillarstorm nerf (even though GBX kinda overdid it )
On the other side of it, it takes skill to dodge a Shadowfire Pillar, but with Nihilism this is practically impossible to do.
Nihilism is even worse combined with her left level 5 helix. This makes Orendi able to do a normal Pillar, Nulify, then 3 seconds later cast an instant Pillar. It also hurts a hell of a lot more with Legendary gear, but those are icky
I could probably go on some more but I need to sleep, so I will conclude below.
It really hurts me to see players take this helix, especially players I know who are highly-skilled. They don’t need this stupid instant pillar ■■■■, they’re good enough to be able to hit them normally.
I think it’s the most broken helix in the game. What do you guys think about it?