Nonelemental damage or Explosive damage builds?

Borderlands 2 Axton the Commando
#68

Yeah…that doohicky.

#69

Thank you for all the help, guys! one last question: i am running a slag Avenger, DPUH, Kerblaster, shock Norfleet, legendary soldier, Fastball, and an Antagonist. (cant get Blockade) Would an explosive +39% relic or a 39% capacity, recharge rate, 33 shcok resisyance, and 25.5% nonelemental resistance Skin of Ancients be better?

#70

Explosion noise! :boom: If you’re not in danger of dying a lot, go with the extra damage.

#71

What about the Rolling Thunder? A little trickier to use, but toss it down into a canyon, along a corridor, or into a room, and it can be quite effective against mobs.

#72

My problem with the Rolling Thunder is the same with every other bouncing grenade in that enemies can avoid it and when compared to the Bonus package and Meteor Shower it is not as good in terms of final explosion. In a crowded room with little to no room or lots of enemies clumped together (Badass Bar, Lilith’s Hidey Hole, Brick’s Throne Room, ect) it works great but so do the other two grenades with the Meteor Shower being down right devastating when all the bomblets are forced into one giant area.

If you get one as a drop and don’t have the others, that’s great, but I would not substitute the Bonus Package or Meteor Shower for a Rolling Thunder.

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#73

Bonus Package = Good

Meteor Shower = Better

IMHO

And custom Meteor Showers with the fuse and delivery you want are sooooo easy to get.

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#74

So as a general consensus, everyone agrees that an explosive relic is better than a Skin of Ancients on Axton?

#75

Yes

(Sigh) Gifs don’t like me :frowning:

#76

Double Yes…SoA is a niche relic…albeit a good one…with the right combo.

Explosive damage relic you will use almost constantly

#77

Doesnt the explosive relic remain literally 39%z therefore basically increasing the damage on a weapon cardby that amount? Skinbof Ancients only boosted my shield by 400000.

#78

But you are only talking about ONE of the boosts an SoA can give you.

A great SoA relic can give up to four boosts.

3 resistances and one shield boost
Or 2 resistances and 2 shield boosts

Shield boost are always Cap and Recharge…one or the other…or both.

Even with all those boosts though…on Axton…90% of the time you want him wearing an Explosive Damage relic.

#79

Do you think a Fastball can eplace a Norfleet? i’m thinking of swapping it forbanbexplosive Ravager. it isbabsutely absud in Axtons hands.

#80

The Fastball and the Norfleet really have quite different uses, so it would be awkward.

#81

With Do or Die in your spec you can use the Fastball as a FFYL tool, if it was what you meant. This way you free your launcher slot for the Ravager, but I would always use the Swordsplosion instead. If you want to use something at short range the UH can fill this role easily.

#82

That makes sense! Could th Basaboom with all of Axtons launcher upgrades and an explosive relic outdamage the Norfleet, assuming uou are at mdrange focusing on a single rarget?

#83

The Badaboom is more ammo efficient, only needing one rocket to spit out six. Just remember it’s like a shotgun-rocket launcher, so don’t expect it to be accurate. It’ll still wreck face though.

#84

What @Gulfwulf said. At close and medium range, it’s pretty devastating; if the only enemy in sight while in FFYL is furiously backing into the next map over, the Norfleet might be better (the Badaboom’s spread gets wider the further the rockets travel). It’s also a lot easier to get a Badaboom than a Norfleet, so there’s that!

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#85

Thanks for allthe help, guys! Final question, in a BBB, should i look for jus the drop % or focus on tje capacity as well? i have a 1,600,000 capacty with 20%, but wondered if if a 2,800,000 capacity with 13% would be better.

#86

I’d go with drop percentage since Axton has some great shield recharge skills. Plus the boosters will restore some of your shield capacity, so the more you can get, the better.

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#87

I’d agree with @Gulfwulf, but I usually split the difference on the extremes. If you’re being hit enough to trigger a drop with a 20% chance BBB, you’ll probably get a booster under the same circumstances with a 15% chance. Min/maxing on the stats depends a bit on your intended play style, though.

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