#58

they didn’t destroy anything…

if you read the patchnotes you would know that it never was intended to work this way and it was an exploit…

Also… anointments are broken… they should be removed completely… this patch just fixed one of the biggest problems/exploits with AsE anointments.

#59

that’s an opinion lmao

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#60

Something changes, nothing new in bl3. Get used to it. Try other ways to play amara and you will see fakegrasping is by far not the strongest way to play her.
I always played driver builds since release, especially since they added mayhem scaling on action skills, because using her as was ridiculously OP.
I’ll find a new way for my driver build im pretty sure maybe I just use non ase anoits and splash weapons.
Stop pointing at other players and calm down, you won’t change anything either. Better start testing other gear/skills etc.

#61

Also anointments weren’t part of the game from te get-go :joy:

So they added it and in GBX style didn’t bother fixing it until now…

And if they actually listened then the game wouldn’t be in such a bad state it’s in now…

#62

Yes, let’s allow Amara (and to a lesser extent Fl4K) have access to Next 2 Mags anoints with no effort, while requiring Moze to literally spend 8 seconds of game play to proc them.

And then, when trying to defend it, as a player, Go ahead and point out that you recognize that Amara had the superior way to proc the anoints, whilst complaining that it makes her suck “like the rest”

You see why they did it. You’re just mad that you used it, and now you can’t.

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#63

Hey, everyone:
forum bunny

Or the thread gets closed, okay?

#64

Or you could just give Moze a more efficient way to proc them, IDK ¯_(ツ)_/¯

But yes let’s gut the fun from the game instead of sharing it with others. Very solid game design theory.

#65

If Gutting the Fun, means finding a way to fix it, so that characters aren’t cheesing Procs, then I’m not sure what to tell you.

#66

There was nothing to fix.

Now without ASE elemental anoints I can’t get 25 stacks of Mindfulness from my Driver… literally the only reason to be using this class mod has been nerfed unnecessarily. There was nothing actually wrong with how ASE anoints worked with fakegrasp.

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#67

Man I just don’t get people that pop up like they won a war against a character they don’t main when a year old “exploit” gets nerfed. Sure Amara has a bunch of new ways to be OP. But personally I feel they are less fun. And every other VH has ways to “exploit” certain skills or synergies to basically one shot everything or be invincible. The only thing phakegrasping, or Fl4ks gamma were doing that was effecting other players was simply playing with a stronger teammate (and Amaras dot noise). Same with the projectile weapons (my game crashes still)

Jeezus when Moze got godly buffs, Zane got crazy buffs, Flaks new bot is insane, no one complains. But watch. When they nerf any of those builds down I’m sure there will be the same people popping up saying “it was broken” and “Stop cheesing and make a real build.”

I’m not sure if you’re trying to defend GB or you just can’t handle other ppl enjoying themselves and having fun. Really sounds like the latter.

I didn’t see anyone complaining when Zane was proccing all his kill skills. Or Moze basically not having to reload…

If it was so broken, why wait a year to fix it? And FFS half the player base plays solo.

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#68

lmao people have absolutely been complaining about all of these things, particularly people who actually play these characters. It’s okay if you don’t think those complaints are warranted or unnecessary, but they exist and aren’t hard to find.

With bug fixes, it’s not so much “waiting” and much more “we literally didn’t figure out how to fix it until recently.” Why did it take like 5 different patches to fix FL4K’s Headcount bug? It just did. :woman_shrugging: I wouldn’t read too much into the timing of individual fixes.

Anyway, I’m sorry the incomparable joy of mashing the Action Skill button while looking at the sky has been removed, but i’ll be honest: fakebursting felt like such clumsy, immersion-breaking garbage i can’t imagine anyone enjoying it, so the arguments for its “fun factor” come across as…difficult to take seriously. Maybe I’d feel differently if I played Amara, but it just seems like such a minor thing to get upset about.

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#69

Only the majority on the forum.

#70

And, at the end of the day, this.

This is why I quit playing BL3.

The constant, often capricious, severe nerfs.

Not even the day 1 onwards busted sh1t (glitches,bugs, crashes, etc, et al) was enough to get me to stop playing.

But this?

This sh1t did.

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#71

I play Amara a decent amount, and this is definitely a minor thing to get upset about. The multiple projectiles nerf/fix (depending on your perspective, I personally quite liked multiple projectiles because I love mah Jakobs, but I will admit the mechanic was game breaking) was arguably way, way more impactful on the game.

The removal of the Fakegrasp mechanic really only affects Amara. And she already has plenty of ways to proc ASE anointments really, really often.

And damn, has this thread totally derailed LOL.

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#72

How so?

#73

@justinmalin77 Did you ever play multiplayer in the old ASE days with an ASE Fl4k or Amara using the Recursion? The Brainstormer? The Wedding Invitation?

If so, you should be able to answer your own question. If not, then that means you are asking a real and not a hypothetical/rhetorical question, which I assumed you were asking.

If you are asking a real question (like you didn’t play this game 6 months ago), just say so, and then I will be glad to answer you in not sarcastic detail.

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#74

Make the game about getting gear and not annointments and people would use action skills and grenades for their use instead of triggering annoints…

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#75

Totally fair; Zipping around the battlefield at full speed with Amara({spiritual driver build) was pure joy. Imo I really doubt they took a year to fix it, but I, nor anyone can verify that. And my favorite build (ricochet witch) is in fact weaker that the current phaseflare Amara builds. It was just WAY more fun. Again my opinion.

So when I jump on a thread another user created that agrees w me, its like salt on the wound that all these ppl feel the need to assert their “it’s broken” comments. In fact there are broken aspects all VH can exploit. And to take a fun one away from one or two VH only pisses those people off.

While your comment is fair, and not insulting, many aren’t.

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#76

Yes I played 6 months ago, no not in mp.

#77

@justinmalin77 The game slowdown/lag created by a Rakk build Fl4k or a Fakegrasp (or even - gasp! - real grasp) Amara using the Recursion would literally crash the games of all players in the lobby in a crowded mobbing area like the MTD or SS. Even playing solo, the game crashed frequently.

The game still crashes frequently. Improvement? LOL