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Battleborn Battleborn General Discussion
#29

Hi.

I am pretty new to mobas. I used to play mmos, rpgs and stuff like this with the occasional shooter in the mix.

To me, it looks like this game has different classes. Assassins make sure, that players don’t do their jobs, pushers kill npcs and help with objectives. Supporters help the teammates to perform better and tanks protect the team and disrupt the enemies.

I hope I got it right.

If I am playing as a pusher (like benedict or mike), my main job is not to kill players. Assassins do that. Every role is important and a good mix is needed for a team.

I guess that would people who come from cod and bf need to get used to roles and priorities first.

#30

@DaRTH_FuRioN hahaha that came off way harsher than I intended then. I assumed you were quite young considering you attributed the terms origins to CoD. You should know that while it existed in Doom, it wasn’t effective and it truly began in the original Quake (1996). The term definitely has expanded, as @Kaleidodemon pointed out, but it’s original content t was spawn camping. Hell it began to have context in non fps games though in many forms. Again though, my tone was much more light hearted.

And I think Marquis does have a place, and definitely has his counters. I think the reason so many people choose him and oscar Mike is that they’re very familiar with those two class types from shooters and don’t expand their horizons enough.

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#31

Or maybe they’re op as ■■■■

#32

Marquis can be countered consistently by any high-DPS, high-agility character (Mellka / Thorn / Phoebe / Rath etc…).

He is only overly effective against characters with large hit boxes, and teams that allow him to stay in position for long periods of time without harassment.

Marquis troubles are often more a team composition issue than anything else, at least in my experience.

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#33

I guess it depends on play style. I main Oscar Mike, and pretty much always play Meltdown (not a huge fan of Incursion. Meltdown feels more balanced). K/D is never my priority. First priority is always the M1 Shepard, followed by the smaller Blade Bots. Only once I’ve cleared the majority of them and see that my Minions have pushed past the threshold do I go for kills.

But I guess its like you said. If you’re hanging back and going for kills on enemy Battleborn? You’re not playing the game right, and I guess that’s kind of your point. At the end of the day, BB is intended to be a MOBA, and objectives are a fundamental basis of MOBAs.

I can’t tell you how many rounds of Meltdown I’ve won, because everyone decided to get into a Team Fight over at Left, and I just soloed Right and pushed right through Wave after wave of bots, spawning Elite Bots when I could.

Granted, that’s kind of his role.

Aside from maybe Toby, who from what I’ve seen plays better for just suppressing fire, all the other guys you mentioned can play the same way. I’ve played Marquis and camped the sniper box, or on top of Mid, and just went for the Shepard every time. Hell, my K/D was probably less than one as Marquis, because once I took out most of the bots the enemy came after me, and my squishy robot butt couldn’t handle the abuse XD

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#34

If you chance an up close 1v1 with Marquis you can win… Just drop a distortion and control the fight…

#35

Copy that entirely.

The other night, I got 3 kills, scored 13 assists, died 1 death AND took down sentry 1 as Marquis - yet a team “mate” Galilea kept sending me the most offensive PSN messages both during match and after about how I sucked not getting “enough” kills (even thou we won) … Was as if we were on different game planets.

Conversation initially went:

Galilea: What are you doing? Are you attacking enemies at all?!!!

Marquis: Apart from building thralls, minions, stations and taking out turrets, I’m attacking sentry. I somehow got the idea that was the objective …

Galilea: * Censored *

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#36

Ha. Back when Alani was god, I played her assassin style. And wave clear. And tank. All at once. I carried a match, lots of kills and assists. And I was playing with my… Not so talented friend. (Montana, went 1/13 or something). We smashed them though, since… Well. Alani and two other decent teammates.
Our Boldur decided to yell at me during and after the match. I still have the messages, so I can get a chuckle every so often. He said during the match that I wasn’t healing him enough. I told him I was focusing me and Montana, and not building healer. He then yelled about him being the tank and blah blah blah you’re a healer blah. I tried to explain that’d I don’t build tank and that I was carrying our waves and leading in kills. He threw a fit about me not healing since, apparently, Alani was a strict healer :slight_smile:

Oh, and we won by a landslide. So it wasn’t sore losing. The bottom line is! Characters have many roles. Don’t get mad at the Orendi playing assassin instead of wave clear. The Marq focused on waves over sniping enemy bb. And for the love of spongebob, do. Not. Use. Kills. As your staple for how well someone did. That’s not how this works. This is not call of duty.

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#37

I try to base my performance on everything I did: kills, deaths, assists, minions, buildables built and destroyed, shards collected, damage done, damage taken (with Monty I want it to be the highest), and healing given if I’m playing a healer. As long as my stats are on par or higher than everybody else’s I consider my job done for that game. If they’re lacking, then I had a bad game. I don’t just look at K/D/A though because if the objective isn’t accomplished, then those really don’t mean squat.

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#38

Which is what the scoring system, imo, ought calculate: ALL of it.

Because as long as kills count the most, then that is the message, and the type behaviour (in particular newer) peoples will adapt.

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#39

Absolutely. I wish they’d remove the score column until they have something better.

@Gulfwulf when I am playing a healer, I add healing done to damage dealt and compare my performance to damage dealt by teammates.

@kennysded whiny Jennerit babies can’t hurt Boldur. Boldur has tiny little healer hiding in his shield. How did it get there? Boldur doesn’t know!

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#40

Every character is built that provide different roles to a team.

Toby and Marquis are snipers. They should not be in the middle of the lane. They would just be getting in the way and drawing heals away from the real tanks/pushers.

They are meant to help gain and maintain control of an area. They provide support from a distance.

WF can be used in different ways.

#41

I usually do what u did, but I get all the noobs in pve who don’t revive me on purpose. When I’m doing almost everything. Nobody in pvp tho? It’s weird

#42

Ungrateful world, this, yea … :acmferro:

Sounds as if we could work 2gether, thou - I’ll fire u a request.

#43

[quote=“kennysded, post:36, topic:1539845, full:true”]He then yelled about him being the tank and blah blah blah you’re a healer blah.
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If you’re in PvP and Boldur needs a healer, your Boldur is doing something wrong. In PvE, where you’re liable to get ganged up on and Brute grenades dropped right under your feet and building for damage is as important as building for survival, yeah, Boldur might need some heals. But in PvP? The only time Boldur should need outside heals is if he’s getting swarmed by the other team.

#44

Alani is great with Bolder in PVP for that reason, he doesn’t need constant healing but a burst heal every now and then will keep him pushing.

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Best duo to splitted screen
#45

Just played a game of capture and the entire enemy team just stood there at our spawn point so we could not get out. What a cheap way to win the game. I never have any problems with losing a match if I lost the match to a fair battle. But for people to do this. It really shows just how cowardly they really on. This was on Xbox one and I can’t remember the map name. But a heads up for everyone. Here are the gt of the team that literally spawn camped our base so we couldn’t capture a single point. Not sure if I should report them to gearbox for unsporting conduct.
They are: Unseen
Souperg
Razor
SadisticSl
DrainingLiz
If you join a match against them. Be prepared to play a match that isn’t worth playing. They suck all the fun out by just camping in front of your spawn point waiting to kill you. I feel we should make a list here to let people know of these type of people. I believe in a fair and fun fight. Not a match where all the enemy team does is camp at your spawn point killing you so you can’t even play or enjoy the game. Its really rather sad.
EDIT: I TOOK OUT PARTS OF THERE NAMES. I CHECKED AND HAVE SEEN OTHERS DO IT. I CAN POST THIER NAMES IF I WANT TO. BUT ILL BE NICE AND ONLY PUT PARTNOF THIER NAME. EVERYONE ELSE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE REST OF THE NAME FOR THEMSELVES I GUESS

#46

I believe a friend and I just faced this team in Capture, or 4/5 of them, and they did the exact same thing.

We had a Mellka that managed to slip by and was running away from engagements to get points while their entire time was pummelling us. I’m all for putting the objectives first, but at least help out in the fight too, so that your team can help with those objectives…

#47

I completely agree with you there. I was playing with a random group and the entire group on the enemy team would do this every time. These people make the game not worth playing. Wish there was a better way to report them. I figured the best thing j could do is start and make a list here so other people can be on the look at when they play. To help others in finding a fun match. Not a dumb match.

#48

I’m not sure if your allowed to name and shame, you might want to check the forum rules buddy.

In regards to what you are discussing, I actually don’t get what they feel they have achieved through this. If they are playing a game, then my assumption is they enjoy playing that game.

Yet it seems they are determined to drive other players away, and create a pretty boring experience for all … it makes no sense