Oh are you for real

What about effecting 5 battleborn at once with her riptide skill 50 times. I hope the enemy team stands in a line 50 times for me…

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I was under the impression that getting double kills with Tobys ultimate and 2000 damage with phoebe blade rush was hardest.

Your impression is right, the Galilea kills aren’t that hard at all.

In any other case I dislike the “git gud” mentality. In any other case but a challange. You’ll never win a chess competition by playing checkers. Now you might really want to have that chess award, but it’s not going to happen unless you git gud at chess. That’s just something you’ll have to accept.

Now if you really want a chess award but you really dislike playing chess… That’s just odd to me.

I’m thinking it refers both to the demage AND the buff, tho, since Riptide can also hasten allies. Maybe hit 2 foes and buff 3 allies would work, meaning any combination of 5 players would work ?

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I sure as heck hope so!

They give legendaries, many of which are quite good.

Trust me, I don’t go into PvP with the express purpose of ruining the games for others. I’d much rather that I didn’t, and I have played through some matches I didn’t want to play for that reason. Just as I imagine that people who dodge games in the coop queues aren’t trying to do the same. But it happens, quite often, due to the flaws in how the game is set up. Let’s be honest, in order for a problem to be addressed, some folks need to make noise.

You can claim moral superiority if it pleases you.

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But, you are still engaging in Chess.
You are still progressing your ability in Chess.
You can still win a Chess Competition.
You have autonomy in all of those cases.
It’s an entirely different matter to say, "Beat Gary Kasparov 25 Times in Chess tournaments"
When tasked with that, we built a computer instead.

Don’t disengage the player base.
Challenge is good, poorly designed check boxes are bad.

To at least add some levity, think of it more this way:
“I came here to play video games and kill Ambra, but I’m all out of Ambra”

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I am def not a fan of this lore challenge appearing yet again however that duke nukem reference was spot on

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And, you can still play pvp, you can still get better at pvp, you can still kill ambra in pvp. In the analogy, checkers was pve and chess was pvp.

So play the game.

Now, there is the real problem. Locking gear behind challenges makes it either so that challenges have to be dumbed down to the point that everyone can get them, or only “gud” players can get them which makes the better players even more advantaged. Now that’s where the designflaw lies in my opinion.

Her riptide also affect allied battleborn, so if you hit 1-5 enemies and 1-4 of your allies get the speed boost, it will count as long as 5 players are affected.

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Thank the gearbox gods for that!

I don;t mind longer challenges, I’ve got three masters at the moment, Gal, Thorn and Pheobe and OM with only 5 matches with montana to go which i could do anytime i want with my partner.

I get why people are annoyed, a support with kill x amount seems off to me, if it was “assist” id have no complaints. But the lore challenges are ment to take time. Phoebe was stupidly easy to finish (with the exception of her 2000 which requires actually going to a certain map to do ) Longer it takes the more you feel accomplished.

I don’t think anyone here was upset just over some flavor text. When people talk about lore challenges, it’s almost always in the context of getting 100% on the character and getting that legendary. If we want to continue your checkers and chess analogy, it’s like being able to start with a second queen in chess…but only if you manage to beat a master of checkers first.

But at least you admit there’s a flaw in the system, now.

No, Checkers and Chess doesn’t apply here.
I’m telling you strait up, in no uncertain terms:
The amount of Ambras is too damn low.

The fact you can’t go outside of Checkers and Chess and you want to keep going back to the analogy shows that you want me to think about this as us and them.
You are seeing the game as a PvP or PvE.
You are seeing this as the Gud and the Git Gud.
You may not think you’ve bought into it.
You may think you’re only for it when it applies to challenges.
But make no mistake, you are quite clearly making this a Git Gud scenario.

Here’s a Challenge for you then, an exercise in autonomy.
Play as nothing but Ambra in PvP for a month.
Be part of the solution instead of part of a mentality.
And then, when you’re sick of playing as Ambra, think to yourself, “Maybe this was a poorly designed check box instead of a real challenge”

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I agree otsuexodus, the whole kill X battleborn a Y amount of times is ridiculous, ESPECIALLY Alani having to kill Ambra, she is a support character and a healer, if it is ok for her to have to kill Ambra 25 times, then why does Ambra not have to kill Galilea 25 times? The reason is, that is ludicrous! Her hit 5 battleborn with riptide 50 times will be challenging and time consuming but not impossible, but making her have to kill a certain character 25 times is just too over the top.

Hey, you never tried to leave the analogy, you engaged in it and I answered that engagement. So I don’t “go back” to it, we never left it.

nonesense

since we’re talking about a challange, yes.

And you may think you know me, but you don’t. Here’s proof I generally don’t support the git gud mentality: So did my first rage quit on a team (rant)

You’re the one with the problem. Since I don’t see one I don’t see any reason to be part of your solution.

i dont see how its possible to “git gud” when gitting gud requires other people to do specific things you have almost no control over it now if you find one then git gud and kill them a bunch of times :stuck_out_tongue:

Enough. I think everyone needs to take a step back and breath.

Not a suggestion. A request.

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