I’ll watch it again to find the stone that we tripped over. But I 'm absolutely sure that it works like i said.
shoogli
(Shoogli)
#14
It does work like you said. I’ve never said the contrary.
I’m only saying that I’m understanding the same thing as you with CDs and CDRs, and not mixing things up as you previously thought
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So far in my 2 posts :
- Gnosis base = Shadow Pillar CDR of 8s after casting Nullify
- Prognostication = Shadow Pillar CDR of 12s after casting Nullify
- Problem is base CD of Shadow Pillar looks to be 9-10s so a CDR of 12s over a 9-10s base CD is “weird”
shoogli
(Shoogli)
#15
Hmmmm so Orendi got saved from LLC by Reyna… Hmmm…
Those snotty LLC…

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MidnightNova
([1/6 || Orb Terrax])
#16
Maybe ironic that I like both the LLC and Rogues then?
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Wolfie5423
(Kayla, The Celestial Wolf :3 )
#17
I am definitely playing as this character cause she is the one that interest me the most cause I saw her gameplay and was amazed by how awesome she was. Can’t wait to get this game 
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Jythri
(Jythri)
#18
Uh oh! BUSTED!
So, heh…have I mentioned “game isn’t final yet”? Yeah. Well…
What you’ve cleverly discovered (and I’m quite impressed!) is some tweaks we made to the convention demo to spice up the game a bit. One of those is a global reduction to the cooldown of all skills on all characters, to let people who have limited time on the convention floor get to try them out a LOT more. That’s one of the factors that has made the game seem fairly easy to most serious gamers who have played.
While the final numbers may still go either way for release, it’s safe to say that balance between Gnosis and Prognositcation will be tweaked so that they are relevant changes to the overall effect.
The intent with Prognositcaion is to play into a loop where you’re almost spamming shadow pillars, especially when you couple it with a few other choices.
Right now, I call this combo: “The Framerate Killer”.
We still have some tuning to do!
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MentalMars
(MentalMars)
#19
OK… The PC Gamer Preview said that they experienced a constant loop of using your special abilities.So there will be less spamming in the final build. What i remember from my gamescom play session is that with Caldarius i was leaning on those abilities and could use at least one ability per encounter. So in the final game i’ll need to be more picky on using those abilities and go more for the hit-n-run gameplay.
Also will this global cooldown reduction be part of the difficulty settings ?
Easy = more cooldown reduction
Hard = no cooldown reduction
shoogli
(Shoogli)
#20
/try to hide almost-but-not-really-self-contained sense of pride
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Ha ha you make me feel like a kid that uncovers the astounding truth by catching his parents when they’re hiding X-mas presents.
So hmmm I “may” have played MMOs a lot and raiding tons in several of them.
Then again when I see all the analysis in the Borderlands class 1, 2 & TPS forums and when I think all these guys will finally come here and dissect your game…
Well let’s just say I wish you to sleep enough and have strong coffee in the morning, for when you get us into the Beta : "War is coming !"
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Anyway, in the end : relief ! We have an explanation about those weird CDs and CDRs calculuses.
Looks like (?) it’ll be in the 15s-18s range for base CD, 15s being possible total shadowpillar spam madness with the relevant Helix choices.
Oh dear…
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MidnightNova
([1/6 || Orb Terrax])
#21
Even after seeing gameplay of her, I still need to gett used to Ashley doing the voice for Orendi.
Not a bad thing though, just aslong as it doesn’t go into Tiny Tina pre-Torgue Campaign of Carnage territory.
Also, how is her named pronounced anyway? I developed the habit to pronounce it as “Oh-ren-dai”.
shuttle127
(shuttle127)
#22
In my head it sounds like “uh-ren-dee”, but I can see how people wouldn’t say her name that often, she gives me a crazy-person-who-must-not-be-named vibe, like someone constantly acting bat-sh*t crazy but deep inside is actually plotting mischief. Who knows, maybe that’s all part of her plan…
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MidnightNova
([1/6 || Orb Terrax])
#24
Well, that clears it up.
Yay for silly questions?
Jythri
(Jythri)
#25
Pronounciation questions are fun!
BTW…sometimes we do say “uh - REHN - dee”.
The fun one is “Jennerit”. There are two current favorite pronounciations of that word. One of them is correct, and the reason we changed from the original spelling, which was “Jenerit”.
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TatlTael
(Robert Evans)
#26
I heard a pronunciation of Consortium before that was like, ‘Con-sor-shi-um’? It made me cringe 
More like ‘Con-sor-tshi-um’ I’d say.
The difference is small, but noticable.
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MidnightNova
([1/6 || Orb Terrax])
#30
I like how I started the pronounciation game.
TatlTael
(Robert Evans)
#31
Nah, people were saying ‘Jen-ur-rit’ if I remember correctly.
MidnightNova
([1/6 || Orb Terrax])
#32
Pre or post the addition of the second ‘n’?