Please nerf Bolder

Battleborn Battleborn Competitive Multiplayer Discussion
#129

anyone who thinks for a second that boldur is not the most broken character the game has ever seen must not understand high level mechanics of incursion. incursion is about pressure and displacement. probably a great deal of you dont even know what displacement is in incursion, and i used to be one of you. then i played against the best team in the country and started studying them and watching their streams and replays from tournaments and learned.

boldur truly is the god of this game. if you play meltdown or whatever, then maybe not, maybe so, i really dont care. im talking about incursion. boldur displaces your entire team and applies constant pressure. he takes entire cooldowns from entire teams and does not die, and when played correctly emerges in better condition than when he entered. and you cannot simply ignore him. you can somewhat attempt to play around him, but he will kill you if you ignore him too much, trust me. or he will set up a very easy series of kills. boldur is the only character in the entire history of the game that really does not have a single hard counter. challenge me on this one.

when you have to hook him into a trap where there is a blight, napalm, and pillar, then a perfectly timed bubble with a marquis shooting him while he is in it to kill him, there is a problem. i really do wish this was an exaggeration, but it simply isnt. i have witnessed with my own eyes almost this exact sequence of events take place with one of the two boldurs i play with on a consistent basis.

#130

An item that gives damage reduction and health regen (Blissbeast Skull Plate, I believe), Health regen item, and his basic Helix choices. I don’t remember the highest I got, but being in Rage adds +14 per second with a Helix, so that’s how it jumps so much.

#131

Just wondering, what’s your GT? I feel as though we HAVE to have played against each other at some point.

#132

yes we have, and it did not end well for you unfortunately lol. i will let you know the next time i run into you. i prefer to have my anonymity on this site

#133

Interesting, I don’t recall losing as a 5 man in a long time. PM me your GT

#134

If all of this happened and he was ccd the whole time he would be dead that’s not even possible to survive that no amount of hp would survive that. Also boldur is not the god of this game if he was he’d be played way more often. The most broken character imo is Benedict with his stupid buff to his rockets.

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#135

Seriously just flank him or keep him at range. That’s all it takes.

He’s hard to actually KILL but that’s the point of a tank. But he’s certainly not hard to chase off.

#136

The difference between Benedict and Boldur? Skill level.
Once a player gets good with Boldur he is an unstoppable god…unless he to tries to take on my Alani. The he’s usually at the least wasting time as I bait him into a geyser with my entire team around him.
Sad part is…he survives that half the time.
Benedict is currently at basically Point and Shoot level. Takes a bit of practice to get the aim down, but that’s the hardest part for him.

I think the main problem with Boldur is that people aren’t use to fighting him, and if you haven’t played as him or been on the forums, you’d have never known about his healing shield.
I go on mic now when I fight a Boldur just to inform the team to NOT unload on his shield.
Makes a huge difference in actually getting him off the frontline.

#137

I use an epic eldrid dr with 4.2 regen, a rare with 7 and 4.2, and a shield pen with 4.2, then I grab the extra 14 with rage and passive 7. Oh wait! I forgot, it’s multiplicative. Well either way, I guess I just never used it all at once or something, because it’s either around 48 or 58. Thank you!

#138

No problem! But yeah, if you build him with the correct gear/play decently, if gets nigh-on impossible to kill him. (In my purely estimated position, meaning I don’t know, it’s just an assumption based on how I understand things/my experiences.)

#139

Yeah, especially at level 10. Tanking sentries is fun.

#140

I’ve had no problem fighting him, killing him yes, but chasing him off has been pretty easy, Cals mobility allows me to flank him when he’s retreating most of the times, yet as against all characters I always have trouble delivering the final blow.

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#141

at low levels of play where all anyone cares about is killing each other, sure, benedict is the most broken. he is definitely a major nuisance even at high levels. but he isnt going to make a win possible by getting the occasional pick. boldur IS going to make the win happen when he is up in your shiit on like the second minion wave allowing sentry dmg within the first minute of the game. i would LOVE to be able to show you exactly what i mean. do you play on xb1?

#142

The only way to kill a well played boldur is to attack him from behind or sides… but a good boldur will never show you his butt. And he will have 4 mates behind him, so impossible to do.

Even if you stun him and attack him 3vs1 he will still be alive because of that -35% dmg (or -50% with helix) and maybe an overshield.

Even AOE are useless versus a good boldur because he will just back a bit to be healed by the AOE.

His only hard counter is Kleese…

Ofc you shouldn’t focus a Boldur but if you ignore him he can kill you easily because he has a great damage pool. He have the same dps than a Phoebe or El Dragon with Rage and Utl on.

He have many good points that are not OP alone, but all together makes him a god.

#143

Oh, he will show you his butt.
When he taunts over your dead body. :wink:

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#144

I prefer to laugh at people. After all “Death is Hilarious”. :wink:

#145

He can also get Thralls easily, and clear waves like a boss. That’s all three things one needs to get exp fast. So then he’s two levels higher, and has insane burst damage. Boldur is limited by damage. Benedict certainly isn’t.

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#146

but benedict can only get SO many kills. dont get me wrong, benedict is insanely broken and needs to go. but he doesnt affect incursion the way boldur does. no one does. he displaces entire teams. screw singling out a target and killing them the way benedict can. that isnt going to win the game. boldur will be in your spawn tanking everything your whole team has, and the sentry aggro, while his team can easily destroy the sentry

#147

Okay yeah, I agree. Sorry :smile_cat:

#148

A good bolder is an absolute nightmare