Then again, nothing stops you from playing both Galilea and other characters now, is there?
I tend to main Galilea but also frequently use Oscar Mike, Marquis and Miko.
yes there is. little things called self respect, sportsmanship, being competitive, and being good.
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itās funny cuz w/ Attikus gets a 20% attack speed high up in his tree, + gear that brings it up around 30 and itās a whole different character practically. Thatās way too much for one skill on its face. Plus gear? Youāre talking over 40%.
Iāve never actually faced an Atticus in PVP that I need to worry about. EIther players havenāt mastered him or heās just a clunky mess. Heās so big that heās essentially bodyblocking his allies and also being a very big target for the enemy team.
He looks like he could be a fun character though, gonna probably try him someday.
You say this like weāre all scum of the earth who have no pride or skill.
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I was talking about Galileaās attack speed mutation being too high & comparing it to Attikus.
Attikus can be effective, but Galilea is not a good matchup for him w/ her CC & debuff field, heās better for taking out ranged & squishies who are out of position - mainly by pouncing behind them & blocking their escape. I think ppl play him like his size & appearance would make you think he plays, which is totally wrong - heās not a tank & should not be leading the charge; heās more like Rath or El Dragon, he has to get in, get the kill & get out, but he doesnāt quite have their DPS until higher levels & geared up, so a lot of ppl will just get rolled & snowballed. He could use some more benefits to outweigh the negatives of his size & giant hitbox - he gets some decent lifesteal but obviously it only works while youāre punching something, so if he canāt connect heās got nothing to do except run or pounce away. The worst feeling w/ Attikus is missing a perfect pounce opportunity by a few feet & having someone backpedaling away as they shoot you w/ no answer for it - CC/slow is his worst enemy.
I like Galā¦ I like her wings, her bad ass armor and her play style, To me it doesnāt make sense to play a character just because they are OP, you gotta play someone you enjoy. There are also characters in BB who no matter how great they are just arnāt my cuppa tea. I donāt disagree she needs a balance but i think its a tad silly to ask people to stop, if that was the way iād tell people to stop playing Marquis hes razor thin and hard as hell to hit from range and can easily run away before you get near him, Ive died more times to Marquis getting that last lucky shot off someone elses kill then ive died to Gal. Just my two cents.
I also donāt think we need 50 anti Gal forums, theres a new one every day, the devs know, the community knows, lets talk about something else?
If you cant straighten your attitude, I am going to have to ask you to leave the conversation completely.
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What kills me the game hasnt been out a month and you have people complaining about balance issues. The game is still new to all of us and the meta and character counters no one knows them 100%. Learn a way to play around her. My team and I have no issue with a strong Gal player. She is easily shut down when the team works to get her down. Being a territorial brawler you just dont let her in. If she does get in you have a melee or possibly depending on character a stun. Have your teammates help you and bam she with retreats or gets killed. Find ways to deal with something and not whine to the devs to nerf something that can be a team effort take down. They cant help it you want to play this game with a bunch of non-cooperative randoms. Get a team and try taking on a Gal and see its laughable. Or keep playing solo and not getting anywhere. Have an equip for damage penetration. BAM you just limited her range if she speced into it. Spec in to slowing her. Wow now she cant get in. I could go on and on. Yeah she is incredible close up. But sucks if she cant get in and stay. If you want to debate it then please do. Give me a scenario and Ill give you a solution.
Listen I chew up Gal with Mellka and Oscar Mike and I met a Rath last night that had a great combo with popping me up and then running underneath my falling body an doing the spin attack thing so I was perma juggled. Deande can perma juggle to death if sheās not interrupted. Thereās plenty of answers to Gal in this game. Thereās just a lot of hate because sheās an effective character and if you donāt think about the engagement (where you are on the map, does she have her shield, is desecrate up somewhere, where are my teammates) then she will eat your face.
You know what though, thereās A LOT of characters like this. If your frontline and your ranged guys arenāt keeping tabs on a competent Gal then thatās on YOU the player. Same is true for any team setup.
Hopefully someone is running point who can initiate>>>your support is watching their back>>>>>ranged DPS is doing their thing>>>>your pushing lanes and paying attention to the red blips on your map.
If you get ganked by Gal because your out of position in respect to the mode,team setup, and map thatās YOUR fault. Let someone ranged harass Gal and THEN make a move. Descerate is an IMMOBILE debuff patch in a game with a multitude of patch abilities.
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The solution is not 1v1āing her of course, but if you arenāt playing with a team and you are an assassin this is impossible; or youāve just taken yourself out of the game. Just the fact that you āarenāt suppose to 1v1 herā is kind of the reason she is broken you know?
When playing character like El Dragon you can really see her prowess. Clothesline in, pops desecrate negates all dmg from the skill, pulls you in, you try to get away, stunned, dead. Try to dragon splash, pops desecrate before you land, negates all dmg from the skill, pulls you in, try to get away with clothesline oh wait your silenced, etc. and even if you get out of her field,stunned,dead. Thus, the reworks stated by GBX that are coming. However, it is still very frustrating to play in her current state.
Have you tried to simply Melee her away. It pushes her back far enough that you no longer will be deep in desecrate and can wall her out. She stuns you then thats unfortunate for you or maybe talk to your team to body her. She is a badass but cant take more than 1 persons after she pops her abilities.
I thought her desecrate drops somewhere and stays? So, if I pushed her back sheād be out of my range, but Iād be in hers (ranged attack) standing in her desecrate just waiting to get stunned. Iāve played almost 100 hours of this game and I play mostly solo. I know how to deal with a Gali that CAN be dealt with, but usually those are ones with no thumbs, or Galiās like our friend @Amynomene who donāt do the pull/silence/slow/dmg/anti-heal/stun/everything under the sun.
That said, ranged character like Marquis or even a Ghalt can sometimes find success against good Galiās, but if you are on an assassin type charcter, you donāt stand a chance.
Edit: and she can literally face roll an entire pre-made team of 5 with two supports behind her.
I 1v1 Gal with Mellka all the time because A) Thatās my job and B) I have the tools to do so.
I emphatically disagree with the whole ādonāt 1v1 her broā, you just have to know the matchup. And yes, there are bad matchups to 1v1 Gal with. Thereās ill advised 1v1 matchups across the game because this isnāt a 1v1 fighting game.
The El Dragon situation can very well be Desecrate performing in a way itās not supposed to. Thatād be a BUG not necessarily a nerf situation. For example Iām pretty sure the vacuum suck mutation isnāt supposed to be able to wrench people off of ledges from crazy high distances. Then thereās the attack while running thing. All of this stuff that could be stuff performing in ways it wasnāt designed to. Thatās a different distinction than deliberately nerfing something.
She is a territorial brawler. You keep her out of her area she has locked down then all you have to worry about is the stun. Range isnt an issue if you have gear for shield penetration. If your solo then not much you can do if you cant get your team to take her attention. Depends on the character and your tools. but you keep her away with a simple melee then thats less time she is hitting you if she stuns. because now instead of point blanking you with it and keeping you there now she has to use it as a gap closer. 1 to 2 seconds of missed dps will play major role in escaping her. Just get our of the area she Desecrates, play keep away, wait for stun and hopfully be at range a bit when she uses it. Solo sucks due to not calling for help. But team wise its easy to deal with gal.
Idk If I was a Gali and you were Melka I would just stun you, run up to you, pull, silence (so you canāt use your lunge etc) and instakill you; or at least push you out of the lane.
Edit: I hope it is desecrate not working properly, bc with many characters if your skill has a wind up at all and the Gali sees the wind up and pops desecrate you are pulled/taken out of the skill.
We are arguing a moot point really. The creative director himself said that she is āgod tierā.
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Youād have to hit me from range with that shield though and Iām strafing, sliding, using cover, all while peppering you with DoT cannisters and pistol fire. I would definitely retreat (Claw Lunge out) if you landed the stun and didnāt kill (which can definitely happen, especially early game). Landing that shield isnāt as guaranteed as people make it out to be.
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I agree with that. Itās only when the pull/silence comes first that the shield is a pretty much sure thing, because you are right in front of her.